Key Democrats Knew, Did Not Object to U.S. Torture Policy
It turns out that Reps. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Jane Harman (D-CA), and Sens. Bob Graham (D-FL) and John D. Rockefeller IV (D-WV), were all extensively, thoroughly, and fully briefed in 2002 by the CIA about its overseas torture programs. Moreover, not only did none of them raise any objections other than for a minor, mealy-mouthed whine from Harman, but apparently someone in the group wanted to know if the CIA could push any harder on the detainees.
Words cannot even begin to adequately describe these appalling conspirators masquerading as some kind of actual opposition to the outrageousness of the Bush Administration.
The Republicans were right: leading Democrats knew all along that the United States was violating federal law, flouting international treaties, and acting against civilized standards of conduct; and here those pandering, craven conspiratorsyes, conspiratorsare, now acting like somehow they're not every bit as culpable and, indeed, guilty.
Now, be sure to go out and vote for some more Democrats. Let's take this country back from the Republicans. Let's put it in the hands of people who can still make you believe their lies.
Whatever gets you through the night, people.
The Dark Wraith is delighted to have made it to a century that offers no illusion of daylight.
Update: Pelosi Statement on Washington Post Report on Congressional Briefing of Administration Interrogation Techniques
Washington, D.C. -- Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued the following statement on a report in today's Washington Post about a congressional briefing on Administration interrogation techniques:
"On one occasion, in the fall of 2002, I was briefed on interrogation techniques the Administration was considering using in the future. The Administration advised that legal counsel for the both the CIA and the Department of Justice had concluded that the techniques were legal.
"I had no further briefings on the techniques. Several months later, my successor as Ranking Member of the House Intelligence Committee, Jane Harman, was briefed more extensively and advised the techniques had in fact been employed. It was my understanding at that time that Congresswoman Harman filed a letter in early 2003 to the CIA to protest the use of such techniques, a protest with which I concurred."
The following, derived from commentary on the original story at Big Brass Blog, is the writer's rebuttal:
First, let's go with Rep. Pelosi's statement: "The Administration advised that legal counsel for the both the CIA and the Department of Justice had concluded that the techniques were legal."
She saw the techniques for herself, including what by any legal standard is torture, and she is now claiming that, because counsel for those conducting and supporting the torture told her it was legal, she is not culpable.
That dog don't bark; that dog don't even whimper.
Absolutely not. She says she was briefed; her defense of her legislative conduct subsequently is thus: CIA lawyers, supported by John "Geneva Is Quaint" Yoo at Justice, told her they were doing legal things.
Now, let's get to the beauty: "[M]y successor as Ranking Member of the House Intelligence Committee, Jane Harman, was briefed more extensively..."
Caught and headed for the frying pan, Rep. Pelosi insists that the other furry creature is really the one we want for dinner.
And by the way, claiming she "...was briefed on interrogation techniques the Administration was considering using in the future" would make her a conspirator before the fact (were I to believe her now that she needs to spin what she seemed unable to recall until her enemies handed her her own two-faced backside). Conspiracy before the fact is considerably more serious than conspiracy after the fact.
The Dark Wraith wonders exactly who's handing these Democrats the shovel they're using so effectively to dig their own graves.
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Wrote Lisa Ranger:
Wrote blackdog:
This is one of the more dissapointing things I have heard in years, will the Dims ever develope a spine?
Wrote Cloud:
Arthur Silber: Supporters of Evil
Wrote Cloud:
By the way, these are the six house members who voted against Jane Harman's bill:
Abercrombie
Costello
Duncan
Flake
Kucinich
Rohrabacher
These 22 didn't vote:
Barrett (SC)
Bilbray
Bishop (UT)
Carson
Conyers
Cooper
Cubin
Davis (IL)
Davis, Tom
Feeney
Hunter
Issa
Jindal
Johnson, E. B.
McKeon
Moore (KS)
Paul
Peterson (PA)
Reyes
Sherman
Wilson (OH)
Woolsey
The other 404, at least, cannot be trusted!
Wrote Dusty:
Good afternoon Dark Wraith,
Don't you just LOVE the feigned anger among the Democraps you singled out? You must surely wonder how anyone with two brains cells to rub together will give the culpable Dems a free pass on this one. I like to refer to them as Republican-lite.
Nice to see Kuncinich is sticking to his principles. That is who I will be voting for regardless of whether or not he is on the ballot for the primary or general election.
As for 'homegrown terrorists'..the name Tim McVeigh rings a bell for some reason ;) Isn't he white? (rhetorical question)
Wrote My Pet Goat:
Kind of hard for Nancy Pelooser to drain the swamp when she lives in it herself, isn't it?
Wrote Dark Wraith:
I have this vision of her disappearing down the swamp drain howling, "I'm draining! Draining! DRAINING!
The Dark Wraith averts his eyes.
Wrote My Pet Goat:
Laughing my ass off. The problem with pond scum is that it clogs the drain.
Wrote Lisa Ranger:
DW,
You are not, by any chance, wearing red shoes are you?
Wrote Dark Wraith:
My shoes may be black, but the red in my bloodshot eyes makes up for it.
The Dark Wraith has been writing final exams all week long.
Wrote Cloud:
Pelosi: pwn'd!
Wrote Lisa Ranger:
My sympathies on your extensive grading work. It is always a grind, and I hope you have proper diversions.
Wrote Phydeaux Speaks:
Good Afternoon, Dark Wraith (and All).
Just read the update. Maybe Pelosi & etc. will dig a hole big enough that we can push all of DC (the political part, anyway) in, cover it all up with a green space, and start over.
Off to write a letter to St. Nick requesting just that.
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"Let's take this country back from the Republicans. Let's put it in the hands of people who can still make you believe their lies."
That's about the size of it, what with all their pretty lies about universal health coverage and all the rest, met with blind dumb cheers from the rank and file.
And where, pray tell, will the money come from? Why does no one ask this? The current behavior of the market and the administration is unlike any common sense economics with which I am familiar. To me, it doesn't look like there's much money to go around anymore for the basics, much less to be spent on innovation.