Monday, October 30, 2006

Special Graphic Post:
Hallowe'en Politics Graphic #3

Scared



The Dark Wraith gives permission to use this graphic with attribute.

Also be sure to see Hallowe'en Politics Graphic #1 and Hallowe'en Politics Graphic #2 here at The Dark Wraith Forums.

<< 13 Comments Total
 My Pet Goat blogged...

Yikes, that's one scary looking mofo. Those teeth....

Mon Oct 30, 11:02:14 PM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

I modeled them after my own.


The Dark Wraith knows scary.

Mon Oct 30, 11:10:11 PM EST  
 oldwhitelady blogged...

Hiya Dark Wraith.

Tee hee hee - I wouldn't mind finding a costume like that! :)

Great graphic!

Tue Oct 31, 12:52:54 AM EST  
 BlondeSense Liz blogged...

great graphic, oh dark one... but I don't think that they are going to lose.

Tue Oct 31, 08:48:26 AM EST  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

"...but I don't think that they are going to lose." -- BlondeSense Liz

Liz, PoLT is still harboring suspicions that the Republicans are trying to lose, or, simply don't care if they lose their majorities, thus enabling them to blame the oncoming social, economic, and environmental disasters on the Democrats. Indeed, what better way to retain the presidency in '08?

Tue Oct 31, 10:00:46 AM EST  
 pissed off patricia blogged...

Trick or Treat?

Hand over the candy and no one gets hurt. Don't hand over the candy and this raw egg lands right in the middle of your computer screen.

HAPPY HALLOWEEN

:)

Tue Oct 31, 01:54:36 PM EST  
 misty blogged...

My goodness, that is creepy.

Good work. :)

Wed Nov 01, 12:48:30 AM EST  
 rcg blogged...

@blondesense - I believe you got it right. We will pick up a few seats - but that's about it. They will steal the rest. The republican criminals are so arrogant, I just can't see them giving up power - plus it will put them at potential risk of receiving some long overdue justice.

@pop - i thought you retired from political life?

@peteroflonetree - then again, I don't put anything past these crazy b*stards - you might be right as well, but based on their phenomenal arrogance and past actions, I'm betting on the former.

DW - thanks for another awesome graphic.

Everyone please consider visiting http://shoutwire.com and shouting some of the important news articles that I've tried to bring more attention to.

-rcg

Wed Nov 01, 01:37:18 PM EST  
 rcg blogged...

Hey Mike, uh, daddybear, I read your comment on the dirt and want to say that I was only joking about being published - of course, I knew that it was just a little nothing site that "published" my "letter".

And yes, my blog has no commentors, I haven't promoted it and I've been using it mainly as an online diary. BTW, in my private life I am a published and well read author. Just like your private life surprised me - you would be surprised at what I have accomplished.

Anyhoo, I thought you were better than to say such things about me. I thought you were a friend. My mistake.

Thu Nov 02, 12:42:08 AM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Uh... who's daddybear?


The Dark Wraith is getting lost on his own blog these days.
[I simpy MUST keep better schedule with my vitamin supplements.]

Thu Nov 02, 08:29:34 AM EST  
 rcg blogged...

Daddybear, isn't you? If not, then I perhaps I have been receiving emails from someone who is pretending to be you? If you want I will forward them to you (minus any personal details - because forwarding that wouldn't be right). Let me know.

Thu Nov 02, 11:19:05 AM EST  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

Ann Coulter's alleged fraudulent voter registration might be referred to the Florida State Attorney General tomorrow.

It's only November, and Christmas is already in the air.


As much as I think the perra should do a live Burning Man impersonation I don't think this potential scandal will anything but help feed its notoriety - more likely to make it a martyr with the 30 percenters.

We can alsways hope though, that it vanishes into obscurity.

Thu Nov 02, 11:45:14 AM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, rcg.

No, that's not me, but if someone is inappropriately using my trademarks, copyrights, or other proprietary works and representations, or is otherwise misrepresenting me, I can assure you that I have some really delicious attorneys who will change the person's life forever and ever.


The Dark Wraith is still trying to figure out what's going on, though.

Thu Nov 02, 02:19:29 PM EST  

       

Saturday, October 28, 2006

Pulp Economics:
Antitrust and Labor Law Quiz

The Dark Wraith was inspired by comments in a recent thread. Having griped about how students come into economics classes these days apparently without so much as a clue about the history of unions in the United States or about antitrust law, it seems only appropriate to put readers here at The Dark Wraith Forums to the test.

Yes, it is time once again for a Pulp Economics quiz. Make no mistake: this one is not easy. In fact, this one could very well qualify as a head-banger, the kind a professor gives without fair warning only when he doesn't mind having the tires on his car slashed. Fortunately for me, you who are about to take this little exam don't know where I park my car, so I'm feeling pretty secure right now. All in all, this is going to work out pretty well, except maybe for the hurtful comments that might follow in the thread for this post. We shall cross that bridge when we come to it.

Just remember: this is for fun... provided, that is, anyone can really have fun taking a quiz on antitrust and labor law.

Enjoy.

Click here to take the quiz.


The Dark Wraith thanks you for taking this rather brutal little test.

<< 29 Comments Total
 father tyme blogged...

OK, so where do I sign up, and do you provide student loans?

Sun Oct 29, 09:52:23 AM EST  
 roger blogged...

nice quiz. well, nice because i did ok. the low end of informed citizen. i'm surprised at how much my geezer brain retains. i'm sure that my modest score does not indicate a deep understanding of anything.

thanks. your virtual tires are safe, from me anyway.

Sun Oct 29, 10:04:10 AM EST  
 roger blogged...

your commenting system seems not quite right. nothing shows on the main page.

Sun Oct 29, 10:05:38 AM EST  
 Debra blogged...

A respectable 80%, it should have been 90 but Ii didn't check my answers and one of my page downs accidentally moved my answer.

#9 made me think of Wal-mart and the Knights of Labor was obvious, given your background. I've always loved the name Samuel P. Gompers and I almost made a mistake but I caught myself.

That was fun, and comments aren't showing on the main page.

Sun Oct 29, 10:15:08 AM EST  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

Good morning Mr. Wraith,

I recall years ago taking a differential equations class in grad school. First test of the semester rolls around, I take the test, and end up walking out after 20 minutes. Yes, I did finish it, and the professor was surprised enough that I was done that he asked for ID, thinking I was a ringer. I ended up with the high score for the class, with a near perfect test.

Alas, this was not to be repeated this morning. Given that I guessed on all of your questions, my 10% fails even probability.

When does open enrollment start?

Sun Oct 29, 12:00:23 PM EST  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

As you can probably see, I only scored 30%; but that is because I answered some questions wrong on purpose--so eager that I am to enroll in one of your courses.

Sun Oct 29, 03:08:23 PM EST  
 Eric A Hopp blogged...

Hello Dark Wraith:

Wow! I've got a 70 percent here--does that make me a surprisingly informed citizen since I pretty much guessed on all the answers? Perhaps I need to take one of your economics courses on labor?

Sun Oct 29, 03:24:05 PM EST  
 Wild Clover blogged...

Well, 30%, though most of it was guessing. Considering I've never taken an econ course, and history class was looooong ago, I'm not surprised. Imp... was peering over my shoulder, and if I'd gone with her answer of Knights, instead of my guess, I would have done better. I had thought that #9 was the tie-ins answer, simply because I thought that one was legal, therefore it couldn't be prohibited. I'm almost certain I've heard of companies using that or something similar enough to confuse me as a business practice. Oh well. One cannot always be good at everything.

Sun Oct 29, 11:18:30 PM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, my friends.

Forgive the absence and the problems with the commenting system. My server was once again the target of a distributed denial of service attack, but this time I got through the disaster much more quickly, although I'm still concerned that some regulars here got swept up in the IP trap the firewall used to defend against the bogeys. I'll go back and see what IPs are listed on the firewall to get anyone still blocked back in shape.

Now, about that quiz. I'm just about floored that people were scoring anything at all above zero. That's encouraging because many of the questions still have pertinence and relevance to this very day, although I shall concede that some were more or less historical trivia. Then again, it never hurts to know that the Knights of Labor were the early birds in organized labor movements. (They were Socialists, and they had some rather surprisingly modern platform positions, like workplace equality for men and women.)

Anyway, my tires are still good on my Jeep, so I guess things worked out for the best on this quiz.

The next one won't be so rough.

Okay, maybe it will be.


The Dark Wraith still wants to do a couple of hard-core economics quizzes.

Sun Oct 29, 11:30:48 PM EST  
 Rook blogged...

Good evening DW!

Would you believe a totally uneducated man such as myself-well, uneducated in the history of Unions and economics in general, I actually got 50%!

Some days, I really do amaze myself.

Mon Oct 30, 12:24:38 AM EST  
 BlondeSense Liz blogged...

It said I got 60 but I got 70 because one of the answers didn't register. Hey I still remember this stuff. Why?

Mon Oct 30, 09:35:55 AM EST  
 Red Red Rose blogged...

50%...not too shabby, I suppose. All of the "terms" looked familiar, but I couldn't remember the specifics. I need to enroll in your refresher course!

Mon Oct 30, 12:33:28 PM EST  
 Tata blogged...

DW - I scored 40%, which was surprising since I never set foot in an economics classroom and barely finished high school, what with all the, you know, rules and everything. Still, I think 40% is about right if you're simply listening, don't you agree?

Mon Oct 30, 01:02:21 PM EST  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Afternoon Dark Wraith

Drat and Darn, only 30% - your quizzes are sooo hard! Esp since I never studied anything like this; but I should have done better, Hubby was a Steward for the machinist's union for years...

Mon Oct 30, 01:11:10 PM EST  
 jack blogged...

Nefarious, I say! Verbage at thirty paces! Now there's the true test of a man's mettle, by thunder! Economics, indeed! Balderdash, says I!
Can you tell I didn't do so hot and am only trying to obfusticate the issue a bit? Rats!

Mon Oct 30, 02:26:47 PM EST  
 Chief blogged...

40% with 2 I knew, PATCO (too easy and Knights of Labor. And got 25% on guessing.

ECON was easy. STAT was beyond difficult.

Mon Oct 30, 05:27:35 PM EST  
 karen m blogged...

40%. Well, too smart to be a Republican seems generous...

I was surprised about the Knights of Labor - I think I'll try to find out more when the kiddo goes to sleep. Of course, I have the United Mine Workers Union to thank for keeping my grandfather alive long enough for me to get to know him.

Labor law sounds interesting. Ugly, but interesting.

Mon Oct 30, 06:44:29 PM EST  
 Phoenician in a time of Romans blogged...

Well, I got 40%.

That's not bad given that my social history classes tended to focus on the Treaty of Waitangi rather than the American Revolution...

Tue Oct 31, 12:14:10 AM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, Phoenician.

'The Treaty of Waitangi', you say. Well, yes, that would be notable in New Zealand, although I hope you studied the English version rather than the Maori one.

Although students in the United States are exposed (at least, ideally) to both American and European treaties, those of the Southern Hemisphere are almost never mentioned, even though there is quite a bit of interesting history down there, particularly for the anglophonic world. Chalk that up to Euro/American centricism, I suppose.


The Dark Wraith can't say that he is all that swift when it comes to Pacific Southern Hemisphere history, either.

Tue Oct 31, 09:15:06 AM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, Karen M.

I do hope you have an opportunity to look into the history of the early labor union movement in the United States.

Before the Civil War, "unions" were really not much more than craft guilds that were most decidedly not all that interested in a broad-based labor rights movement. That is not to say, however, that the idea of worker rights was not in play; there were notable writers and even poets addressing such issues, but these people got very little traction. The poet Caroline Elizabeth Sarah Norton, who wrote the poem "I Do Not Love Thee," among others, was an advocate for protection of children working in factories (if I am accurately remembering the issues and their advocates).

Once Marx's writings were published and somewhat widely disseminated in the United States, Socialist ideas gave more than a little life to union efforts here, but the Knights of Labor never got the ball rolling like the American Federation of Labor. I discuss this matter in class, and ask students to assess whether it was merely a matter of organizational skills or if it had something to do with a "natural" tendency of rank-and-file American laborers to be ill at ease with the Socialist thinking that animated the Knights of Labor but not nearly so much the AFL.

It's very interesting history, both from a theoretical perspective and from the more human side. Some of the stories are just riveting, and far too little is written these days about what happened in those early years of the American labor movement.


The Dark Wraith ought to do more writing, himself, on the whole subject.

Tue Oct 31, 09:30:29 AM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, Chief.

Yes, statistics (what we math jockeys used to call "sadistics") can be a lot like work. The introductory courses I teach in statistics (which are almost entirely descriptive statistics stuff) aren't all that difficult; but boy! when you get into the mathematical stuff at the higher level, you're talking about some really serious pain, especially if the statistics part of the coursework is underpinned (as it should be) by heavy-duty probability theory.

My philosophy is this: in order for people who use statistics to be allowed to do so, they should first go through the Hell of that probability theory, which will disabuse them of a whole lot of the nonsense that passes as "research" these days. In fact, I spend a serious amount of time even in a descriptive statistics course teaching the students how to call bullcrap on "studies," "research," and "results" that show up even in major scientific (especially medical and social sciences) journals, as well as in newspapers and magazines.

It's worth the effort to get at least a few students to the point where they become informed enough to assess on their own the legitimacy of all the numbers that are thrown at them these days. Obviously, the downside of this is that students become awfully darned cynical about science and the media.


The Dark Wraith does enjoy teaching.

Tue Oct 31, 09:39:56 AM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, Jack.

Not to worry. We'll be having extra credit assignments to help make up for low quiz scores.

I'm thinking about something along the lines of one point of extra credit for each neo-con's head brought into class for Show and Tell.


The Dark Wraith will allow up to 20 extra credit points... okay, make it 50.

Tue Oct 31, 09:42:18 AM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Egads! I'm going to be late for class!


The Dark Wraith races out the door.
[Look out, people! For God's sake, get out of my way!]

Tue Oct 31, 09:57:08 AM EST  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

Good Morning Dark Wraith:

30% i claim extreme fatigue from an extra full work schedule (union bloody work too) which involved travel to crowded l.a. the unions have suffered mightily since taft-hartley.

Tue Oct 31, 10:58:55 AM EST  
 Phoenician in a time of Romans blogged...

'The Treaty of Waitangi', you say. Well, yes, that would be notable in New Zealand, although I hope you studied the English version rather than the Maori one.

Oh, Jesus, don't get us started on that. The English version differed from the Maori version because of several important semantic misunderstandings - the English thought they were getting "sovereignty", the Maori thought they were giving "governance". The English thought the Maori were granted "possession" of lands, the Maori thought they were guaranteed "chieftainship".

Mind you, I've argued with Americans on the net who were adamant that May Day should not be recognised, since it was clearly a Commie import and irrelevant to America...

Tue Oct 31, 04:16:46 PM EST  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

Good Evening Dark Wraith:

Neocon heads? OK, but why not ask for something they use now and then?

Just askin' is all...

Tue Oct 31, 09:51:04 PM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Only if I can use very thick surgical gloves during the removal process.


The Dark Wraith has his standards of sanitation, y'know.

Tue Oct 31, 10:20:49 PM EST  
 Progressive Traditionalist blogged...

Good morning, Mr Wraith.

A 40% score for me. Quite pleased to be too smart to be a Republican.

In fact, I am a member of a trade union, and I am very concerned about the future that trade unions have in the US. There are some significant problems in my own union, and I'm not so sure a procedure exists to address these issues.

Now, some unions issue transfer cards to members that work outside of their jurisdiction, and that member then transfers his/her membership to the new local. My union issues travel cards, where the home local remains the same, and work takes place in another jurisdiction. Each local then sets rules (by-laws, actually) on the transference of membership, typically 2000 hours worked (1 year) within their jurisdiction.

The jurisdiction of my home local covers 3 counties in Florida. Our current leadership is extraordinary. However, these people were voted in after a run of leadership which were somewhat on the incompetent or inept side (take your pick), but were nevertheless generally well-liked enough to win the election. And so, it was determined by the membership that competency in leadership was more desirable than a gregarious personality.

I have worked on a travel card for the past 2 years. I pay my dues to Florida, and deductions are witheld from my check for the local I am working under. I have vacation accounts (an evolution of the old "strike funds") scattered across the country. I can't even identify all of my bank accounts. Still wrestling with the national for the disbursement of my annuity funds to my local.

I have a contract, but no representation. I can call up the business agent here and talk to him, but if I say anything against a local hand, I'm cutting my own throat. I can attend meetings, but I am not allowed to speak or vote.

All of that I don't have a problem with. The cost of doing business, the way I call it.

But there are really big problems. And I would say that most of them boil down to 1) people being able to think ahead only to the next job; 2) business agents using their position as some sort of something other than representing the interests of the membership; 3) that personality thing, which is terribly aggravated by representing more than one job specification; and 4) travelers that cut deals with the company (ie "company men") rather than working through the local. And that's just a preliminary list.

I am indeed incredibly interested in your take on the current state of affairs regarding the unions in the US.

Wed Nov 01, 08:26:16 AM EST  
 Red State Blues blogged...

Sigh, I'm still smart enough not to be a Republican, but a little disappointed that I only got 50%.

Wed Nov 01, 10:49:33 AM EST  

       

Wednesday, October 25, 2006

Special Blog Post:
The Remedial Future

Entering the building brought back memories. It wasn't as if I'd been in this particular place very many times, but schools all seem to have the same smell. A teacher I have known for many years likes to say that aerosol cans of School Aroma are used at night after everyone has left, and the extra-strength brand is used right before the beginning of every school year. The janitor must have sprayed a shot or two of that extra-strength stuff right before I entered that junior high last month for the Community Open House.

It was primarily for parents, but anyone could come. The entire school district some years ago had pretty much dispensed with the traditional parent/teacher conferences in favor of these Open House affairs, where teachers and administrators give group presentations to the assembled audiences. A sense of urgency about keeping on the schedule of moving from place to place through the evening kept most people from trying to catch a teacher, a guidance counselor, or the principal for even a quick question. Things like that had to wait for that day when people were afforded the opportunity to "arrange" a 15-minute meeting with one or several teachers if there were some special, individual issues that needed to be discussed.

Those special conferences, complete as they were with the unspoken message that they were to be arranged only under extenuating circumstances, had replaced the old-fashioned parent/teacher conferences. In its own way, this seemed reasonable: if the kids are to be educated in warehouse fashion, then anyone interacting with that education system should enjoy the same kind of food processing environment.

The whole shindig that evening at the Open House would culminate in a big assembly in the "cafetorium" (a word new to me, it being defined as a combination cafeteria, auditorium, and gymnasium). The principal would speak for a few minutes, then the lead teachers in each subject area would give their brief speeches, and then the principal would conclude the night's activities with a few thoughts. I had hoped there would be a question-and-answer session at the end, but I was going to be sorely disappointed.

No RacismThe evening started off uneventfully, though. I walked past several tables, missing one that I should have noticed but didn't because I got focused on the table that had a big sign over it with the word "RACISM" with a red slash through it. These signs were all over town, and I found them so ironic. This bustling community, with all of its up-and-coming yuppies and their ever-progressive churches, do so many things to show just how with-it and open-minded they are in their collective public expressions. Everything from bans on all smoking in public to mildly worded vows of "tolerance" for alternative "lifestyles," these are the kind of people trying very hard to have their noses in the progressive air, where they won't be able to smell the stench of their cowtown-gone-big-time with its street-level, grinding poverty, unemployment, and drug problems. That very school, where those anti-racism signs were wagging, is a hot-bed of simmering anger between the Black and White kids on one side, and the immigrant kids—mostly, but not all, Hispanic—on the other. As an African-American mother had told me when we were talking about the bitter hatred the Mexican kids were engendering for their alleged misbehavior on a school bus, "My granddaddy always said Black and White folk would finally come together when we all had someone else we didn't like." I laughed at the time, but I knew very well she was right: the Blacks and Whites have almost no issues with each other, but they uniformly hate the Mexicans, and they seem to find all kinds of reasons why those Hispanic kids are making them get mad.

The D.A.R.E. table just made me cringe. I wondered if anyone in that school had even the slightest clue as to how rampant the use of meth and Special K (ketamine) are. The cop sitting at that D.A.R.E. table probably did; but then again, maybe he didn't, either.

So I went by all the tables, and I missed the one that, right there and then, would have set me off. As it was, I had to wait until nearly the end of the evening before my list of issues I wanted to bring up would evaporate in a storm of righteous indignation over one small matter highlighted in the last, big assembly.

Now, it sounds like I went to that Open House with a mission to stir trouble. That's right: I had several issues I wanted to have aired in an open forum where lots of parents were present. One was the problem with the pot of ethnic tensions that was on the verge every day of bursting into open violence.

Another was the RFID chips. Apparently, according to a number of junior high school students who had spoken to me in other venues, several teachers at that school had been telling the kids that, before they were finished with high school, every student would be required to have a radio frequency identification (RFID) chip injected as a requirement to attend public school. The refrain I had heard from several kids was that teachers were saying something along the lines of, "It's just like how we make you have vaccinations." After the tragedy at that Amish school in Pennsylvania last month, the harangue from a couple of teachers about those RFID chips had become more persistent. I wanted clarification on this matter, just to make sure it was nothing more than some teachers pulling kids' legs, and I wanted it where parents could hear all about RFID chips. My hope was that a paleo-conservative wave of Luddite indignation would roll across that room and put some brakes on this hare-brained idea, if by some remote chance it was seriously on the table. As it had been, far too many ridiculous, ill-conceived, and downright counter-productive ideas had come to fruition in that school district (and, in fact, in that whole community) because plans were hatched, executed, and entrenched before anyone knew what was going on. The RFID chips were just the latest and, in my judgment, the very worst of a whole string of nonsense that had made my job as a citizen and my career as a college teacher more and more difficult. RFID chips are already becoming required by far too many employers in the private sector, and within the next two years, U.S. soldiers will be giving up their dog tags to get those RFID chips shot into their arms (which should make it somewhat easier, I shall concede, to identify battlefield corpses).

I had my plan for a couple of diplomatically worded, yet pointed, questions. Then came the final assembly, and that was where my plans turned on a dime.

By the way, bringing up issues in another, perhaps more appropriate, forum—like, maybe to the school board—wouldn't be such a good idea. First would come the mantra that people with concerns should work their way up through the system. Second, and more tellingly, both the school board and the city, itself, have employees sometimes called their "kook handlers," otherwise known as community relations personnel. These are the individuals to whom the kooks who call are directed. These handlers are very nice, and they have absolutely no authority to do anything other than calm people down and assure them that their concerns will be addressed. I know these people well, both because I've worked with some of them and because I've been directed to them, like the time I called to find out why an apartment complex in town had secured its own police force that was writing "tickets," something that cannot be done by entities that are not 'sovereign' such as municipalities and states. A nice kook handler for the city was "helping" me until I brought in the local chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union to deal with the matter since these phony "cops" were writing tickets to kids who were riding their bikes on the sidewalk instead of on the streets as required by the "laws" of the apartment complex. (Ever watch a five-year-old riding her little bike behind parked cars that might back out at any second?) No, I wasn't interested in getting into a discussion with the school board's community relations person, much as I enjoy talking with people I've never met before. The school assembly was where I might get some real answers to serious questions.

Returning to the grand finale of that Open House, the principal had her say—she'd have a few last words at the end, too—then the teachers came through, one by one, saying the things parents and concerned citizens want to hear: students are expected to do their homework, respect their teachers and their peers, etc.

Then came the teacher spearheading the health program. It wasn't a minute before she said, "And I'm so excited about the funding we have for our abstinence-only sex education program here."

Oh, my. Following school matters as closely as I had been, I had heard nothing about this. But it got better. The health teacher started talking about the "coordinator" of the program out in the hall at her table: the table with the sign for the church that was behind this application of a "faith-based initiative."

I swear, I'm getting old. Either that, or a table sponsored by a church plopped right smack in the middle of a public school was so far outside my world-view that I just blocked it out.

I actually got out of my seat and went over to the doors and peeked out. Sure enough, there it was: a table with a church's logo parked front and center, along with "health education" signs; and there, sitting behind the table, was a real, live church lady, almost a caricature in flesh and blood, someone who would, by the very aura about her, bring many to vows of abstinence. Dear Lord, the woman was wearing floral print with a ruffled-lace collar that looked like it was throttling the hag.

The health teacher in the cafetorium was just bubbling on: the amount of "assistance" the school had received for implementing this program, how she could tell the "positive" impact it was making on the lives of so many young people, and how she could "vouch for" the dedication of that church and its church lady since she was a member of that very same house of God.

I looked at the row of teachers sitting with the principal, and all but a few had expressions of what I can describe only as serenity with what that health teacher was saying. Good Lord, those were people cut from the same cloth; but more importantly, this had been some kind of group decision to bring such a program on board, and that principal, nodding her head and smiling, somehow pushed this through, probably using the leverage of promises of federal money that would come with implementation of a heavily religious intrusion into what should be a completely secular institution.

Yes, the federal government has several of these programs, and schools desperate for funds are vulnerable to parochial, Christian interests—usually within the school systems, themselves—ready to get the ball rolling. And these programs aren't in any way loose with respect to standards of content, scope of instruction, or even sequence of topics. They aren't particularly nice, either. For example, program "guidelines," which are actually curricular mandates, specifically address topics like homosexuality, which is described as a lifestyle that can be "exited" (yes, that's the language). That explained in a flash what I had noticed as a disturbing level of viciously anti-gay jokes the kids at that school seemed completely at ease with telling. It also explained why way too many girls had been telling everyone that two of their classmates are "lesbians" just because one of them sat on the other's lap one day. The cruelty of the name-calling was exceeded only by how proud all of the girls were that they'd "tagged" a couple of "lezzies."

The health teacher finished, the principal said the goodbye and thank you bit, and everyone left.

They'll have another Open House in the Spring, so I'll get my facts in order and be ready for the inevitable braying about this faith-based initiative being rammed down the throats of sixth, seventh, and eighth graders. I'll let the lady have her fun, then I'll take my opportunity to growl rather loudly, "Before you sit down..."

Being a college teacher for 25 years has taken away any qualms I might have about taking over a room with my voice. Heaven knows why, but people I know get really fidgety when I start that intrusive snarl that inevitably leads to a long-winded lecture. It's my trademark; and for some reason, people who have been to college are rather afraid to tell a professor to shut up.

My script will be polished. "When and where was it decided that we would, in this school, set aside comprehensive sex education—the kind that includes a strong message for abstinence along with an equally strong message that effective contraception is available and must always be used when the choice of abstinence has been declined?"

I'll probably get something like, "I really don't think this is the place..."

"It most certainly is," I'll say. "Your 'abstinence only' program—as much as you, yourself, are 'so excited' about it—is exactly the same as refusing to teach driver's ed students about safety belts simply because you're going to tell them not to have accidents."

I've already made it quite clear to anyone who will listen that I fully intend to make a loud noise when this matter comes up at the next Open House, and I have been quietly aghast at the number of people—most of them parents—who agree with me. "Good grief," I keep thinking to myself, "I really need to stop being so snotty about the people in this community."

Provided I'm not dragged out before I can finish, I must make one more point: "Studies are already coming in that give strong evidence that this abstinence-only sex education is simply not working, and this school is allowing one church, with one set of religious beliefs, to impose those beliefs on a community where a whole lot of people simply don't believe that way. In fact, one of the largest churches in town, the First United Methodist Church down just off College Avenue, specifically states in its public documents that gay people are welcome with open arms and no judgment; yet you choose a path that brings intolerant religion right into this public school, all while you wave around those 'no racism in our community' signs out there."

I could say more, especially about teaching at the local colleges where I get to see 18-, 19-, and 20-year-old single mothers with one, two, three, or even (in the case of a student of mine right now at the community college) four children. Most of them, I'm trying to prep for the GED. A few, I'm teaching in remedial courses they have almost no chance of passing. They're tired, their lives are a shattered mess, their futures are written in the virtual stone of lost hope and minimum wage jobs for years to come. They'll suffer abuse at the hands of a nasty, so-called "free market"; they'll suffer abuse at the hands of boyfriends they desperately hope are a chance to live a better life; they'll suffer verbal abuse at the hands of their parents, who are themselves being burdened by children and now grandchildren who cannot adequately fend for themselves; they'll suffer abuse at the hands of a git-tuff-on-crime law enforcement machine that will kick their butts every time they do things that poor people often do by the very nature of their circumstances; and they'll suffer abuse at the hands of a scornful little sub-population of religious hate-mongers who will use them as the pretext for more and more ridiculous, counter-productive policies brought to bear through craven politicians trying to show just how pious, godly, and altogether Christian they, themselves, are.

I'll stop at that. If I were to keep going, I'd probably end up roaring, "God ALMIGHTY, teachers! Is promoting your own narrow views and getting a few extra bucks from Right-wing whores in Washington really worth the price you're exacting in more lives wrecked? IS THAT WHAT YOUR GOD BIDS OF YOU? If so, then yours is a false god, and you are the worshippers of an idol of self-satisfying pain visited upon those harmed by your abdication of responsibility to these kids, who by the way should always come before your mean little god as far as public policy is concerned."

Like I said, I'll stop before I go that far.

The abstinence-only sex education program will continue, of course, whether or not I raise holy Hell. It's not like schools are a shining example of democracy. After all, we pay those teachers and administrators to make decisions that can at times be unpopular. Perhaps if we paid teachers more, though, we'd get better decisions.

Setting aside my personal preferences for a comprehensive, well-tested, secular approach to sex education, I suppose I'm okay with how things are with the abstinence-only version; it most decidedly guarantees that I'll have plenty of work prepping single mothers for their GEDs for years to come.

Now, if only I could work an angle to do my teaching as some faith-based initiative type of gig, I'd definitely have it made.


The Dark Wraith believes there really is a place for God in remediating the future.

<< 24 Comments Total
 t rogers blogged...

Good morning, Mr. Wraith.

S'okay if I charge admission to that next open house?

I am fortunate to have time and energy to augment "teaching to the test", but, as an agnostic, I'm unsure how to counter religion's presence in the school without sounding anti-religious to my Wards. Lacking a properly working Temper Control Valve(TCV) I try not to get worked up at the System, cravenly hoping someone such as yourself will voice these concerns instead.

Thu Oct 26, 08:44:45 AM EDT  
 Mr. Shakes blogged...

Morning, Wraith.

Very nicely written piece. It may interest you to know that British schools share exactly the same smell as American ones. I recently visited the local high school, here, and was stunned when that familiar heady scent of old socks, disenfectant, fear and testosterone wafted istelf accross my olfactory nerves. I tell you: it put me right back in short trousers for a good few seconds. I may even have glanced over my shoulder to check that Billy Biffer wasn't stalking me for my lunch money. Though I would never admit to such a thing, of course.

Btw, do you live in my town or something, lol? You just precisely described the place in which I live.

Like you, I am often surprised by just how reasonable the people in small town, ostensibly red America can be, given the interests they have and the institutions and politicians they patronize. There's still some life in this old dog, whatever the Repugs might like to think. We just need to be given a chance to speak to these without Bill O'Reilly and friends shouting us down.

Thu Oct 26, 10:04:43 AM EDT  
 rcg blogged...

As a parent, with two children in public school, I can tell you that I have experienced hitting all those frustrating "walls" and that I share all of your concerns as well. Well, actually there is one big concern on my mind that you did not mention. (btw, I do realize it would take the span of several novels to cover it all.) This past few years, I have had to frequently resort to pulling out my old dusty encyclopedia to show my children that they were not being taught the truth about history.
It just blows my mind that teachers are allowed to get away with that; Especially when I walk in with encyclopedia in hand and can simply prove that my children are being taught clear and major lies. Anyhoo, thanks for the great read. I will give this article a mention on my blog that nobody reads. LOL

Thu Oct 26, 11:51:09 AM EDT  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

I'm reminded by your post of this quote by Alvin Toffler in his book
The Third Wave:
"Built on the factory model, mass education taught basic reading, writing, and arithmetic, a bit of history and other subjects. This was the "overt curriculum". But beneath it lay an invisible or "covert curriculum that was far more basic. It consisted--and still does in most industrial nations--of three courses: one in punctuality, one in obedience, and one in rote repetitive work. Factory labor demanded workers who showed up on time, especially assembly-line hands. It demanded workers who would take orders from a management hierarchy without questioning. And it demanded men and women prepared to slave away at machines or in offices, performing brutally repetitious operations."

Thu Oct 26, 03:56:21 PM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

Any comment I would choose to make on the topic of mixing religous crap with education (and government for that matter) would only denigrate some of the sheep, so I'll politely abstain.

I am fortunate to have time and energy to augment "teaching to the test"...

And obviously a caring and motivated attitude to do so.

To all the teachers out there: Are there instances of religion being snuck into any of the standardized tests that may be required by a school district or state?

Thu Oct 26, 09:17:42 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Mr. Goat.

Although the tests are standardized, most of them have retained a relatively bland internal content structure.

They have reshaped education at the primary and secondary levels, and they are a total nightmare for me at the college level. There was always that maddening question some student would ask: "Will this stuff be on the test?" but it has now turned into the very assumptive basis for all studying and thinking students do about material I present. It takes me weeks to get students to stop believing that I am going to deliver cookie-cutter lectures that will end in those same cookie shapes on the quizzes and exams I administer. The students are (unfortunately, rightly) bitter that I didn't spoon-feed them content exactly as it would appear on the exams, and they have no clue as to how synthesis of material over a span of weeks can be accomplished.

In practice, this means, for example, that I present information in a lecture on class day 4, then I present information on class day 25; then, on a test, I ask a question where the knowledge from day 4 has to be integrated with the knowledge from day 25 to generate a meaningful response.

Students uniformly cannot do this anymore because they are so conditioned to take tests through linear, one-to-one learning.

Now, take this whole problem a step further and think about what happens in classes where I use what is called "reform" pedagogy. (And yes, this works, and it works magnificently; but only if the teachers are specifically and continually trained in the methodology). I get students to learn not by pouring lectures down their throats, but by giving them carefully crafted, sequenced, and arranged problems they have to solve, either in group or individual settings. The method requires a lot of work on both the part of the students and the part of the teacher, but once learning begins to happen, the curve of knowledge acquisition is steep and exhilerating.

Try getting students who have become masterful in learning by reform methods to do a cookie-cutter state test created by education folks who are not reform methodologists. Watch "reform" look like a disaster when it's actually a wild success.

Grr.

Make that a double Grr.


The Dark Wraith is feeling that pain shooting down his left arm again.

Thu Oct 26, 10:24:11 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Peter of Lone Tree, and welcome back.

I need to thank you for reprinting that passage by Toffler. I was rummaging through my brain trying to remember who it was who wrote that. For the life of me, I couldn't recall.

By the way, it appears that one of the spammers whom I had gone after for leaving smut links on the message board managed to get through and obliterate the database. It's completely destroyed, as far as I can tell.

I'm going to have to rebuild from scratch, but I'll use a different platform this time, one that is able to deal more effectively with some of the new attacking techniques. The code for the original was from the old days, and it was just impossible for me to protect it from some of the newest generation of code killers.

I will find out who did it, though; in fact, I'm already almost sure I know the identity of the wrecker. Once I'm 100% certain, I'm going to turn the bitch's server into a terrarium.

Of course, you know I'm just kidding in that last paragraph. I wouldn't really do anything like that. I wouldn't even know how.

Geez. Sometimes I worry that people take me too seriously.


The Dark Wraith is actually a very forgiving, peaceful sort of person.

Thu Oct 26, 10:57:10 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, rcg.

Good Lord, man, don't get me started on that rewriting of history thing. I am seeing utterly mind-bending stuff.

The kids I tutor are being told bald-faced lies in some cases; and in other cases, whole sections of historical content are being left out, which makes everything appear to happen for different reasons. I am simply aghast at how unabashed some of the publishers are in committing this outrage.

What's worse is that, on several specific occasions, I brought clear misstatements of facts to teachers' attentions, and they were genuinely clueless, first, about the facts that had been omitted and, second, about why I was sticking my nose into what they saw as "their" business of teaching the students.

Some of the kids get to college, and God help them if they hit a teacher like me. Next week, I'm going through the history of labor unions in the United States, and that's always good for a real hoot as I ask students even the simplest questions. They are absolutely clueless. I mean, they are Warp Factor Duh.

I cannot assume they know even the very basics of economic policy over the past century. A group of students all from one high school (and these are pretty honest, straight-shooting young people) swore to God several weeks ago that they had never heard of the New Deal or the Great Society. I'm pretty darned sure they were telling the truth because some of them were really interested in the whole idea of the conflict between the conservatives and liberals cast as a difference of beliefs about the role of government in managing the macroeconomy.

Cripe. Next week (right before labor economics), I'll do the history of anti-trust law. What do you want to bet that not one student—not one—knows the name of even a single Act of Congress having to do with monopolization of markets?

Okay, everyone here shouldn't squirm: you're allowed to forget things like the names of anti-trust laws as you age. What I wonder is, if I gave the names of some of those laws, would people remember hearing about any of them in school? Ditto for labor laws.

Uh-oh. I just had a great idea.


The Dark Wraith might want to think twice about this one, though.

Thu Oct 26, 11:17:01 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Mr. Shakes.

Between your better half and folks like me, perhaps we should have a shouting contest with the Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh types.

I think we'd win, if for no other reason than that, by the time the smoke had cleared, Satan would have gathered his Right-wing little mouthpieces up and gone back to Hell to review the dictionary for the meanings of some of the epithets we had thrown at them.


The Dark Wraith spent way too much time on message boards in the 1990s to put up with being shouted down anymore.

Thu Oct 26, 11:22:50 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, T. Rogers.

Yes, I think charging admission to the next Open House might be a good idea. The funds raised could be used for rehabilitative therapy for the religious teachers who will have had their butts chewed off.

I have a meeting next week with a school board member, and I'm going to make my sentiments crystal clear concerning some of the things that are going on. This particular board member knows that I am on online writer and publisher, but he doesn't know whether or not my writings are widely read. I'm going to use a bit of leverage to let him know that I've already begun to describe in my online writings the situation concerning the abstinence-only sex education program in the junior high school. I shall make it abundantly clear that no school or administrators' names are being used, but I won't mince words that, if this nonsense keeps going, I will have no problem whatsoever with making that school's name very well known far outside the local community.

One thing I learned long ago is that local, small-time politicians are generally really interested in not getting famous the wrong way.

This fellow is actually pretty intelligent and fairly progressive in the views he has shared with me in the past, so I'm quite interested in finding out exactly what he knows about what's going on. I wouldn't be completely surprised if he gives me a blank look when I tell him about some of the things that are happening.

By the way, that thing about the RFID chips? I really have been thinking that the teachers are pulling the kids' legs about the whole thing. Apparently, based upon some information I got this morning, it's not a joke.


The Dark Wraith will definitely ask that school board member about that.

Thu Oct 26, 11:34:06 PM EDT  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

"The Dark Wraith is actually a very forgiving, peaceful sort of person."

The Man from Galilee would be gratified that you seem to have adopted his "turn the other cheek" philosophy. 'Course, there was that incident in the temple with the moneychangers...

Thu Oct 26, 11:38:15 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Peter.

Whereas the young rabbi got incensed at the sight of rampant free-market activities in the house of God, I tend to get fussy when I see rampant free-market stupidity in the house of academia.

I also get worked up when I see rampant free-market opportunism in the house of governance.

That last one tends to make me want to bring out my whip and chase the scoundrels out of Congress and the White House; but alas, I usually have to wait for a good revolution or, at the very least, a reasonably fair election.


The Dark Wraith thinks the revolutionary solution has far more potential for exciting gallows sessions.

Fri Oct 27, 12:07:40 AM EDT  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

"Quoth the Dark Wraith
The very thought of beating Rush Limbaugh into a quivering cripple and then telling everyone he's faking his resulting infirmities is just appalling.

Yes, indeed. Just appalling."


That's the strangest spelling of "appealing" I've ever seen.

Fri Oct 27, 08:44:07 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Hee-hee-hee.

Fri Oct 27, 10:17:22 AM EDT  
 rcg blogged...

Thank you, (Mr., Professor, Dr.,??) Wraith, giving a personal response to each of us was a nice but unexpected act.

When my children are college age, I hope they are lucky enough to find a wise and demanding professor like you.

P.S. It's a good thing I'm not around or ever in close proximity to Rush L - because the thought of doing a year or two in jail for kicking his ass doesn't bother me. It's just a "thought" though, I wouldn't actually do it. hehe

Fri Oct 27, 11:07:44 AM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

By the way, that thing about the RFID chips? I really have been thinking that the teachers are pulling the kids' legs about the whole thing. Apparently, based upon some information I got this morning, it's not a joke.

I'm assuming that you saw these when they hit the news, but maybe not?

School RFID Plan Gets an F

Keep RFIDs Out of Public Schools

Texas School District Tracks Kids with RFID

As far as your teaching/testing goes, you mean you actually make them apply the principles? Oh my! Poor suckers to think otherwise.

I knew you did; your postings here were evidence enough before your explanation. Another earmark of the top notch educators I've crossed paths with - they actually make you take concepts you've memorized, evaluate the problem, and apply the appropriate process to solve the problem.

My beef with post high school education (aside from having some real dowah professors that read from the text book for their lecture, etc.), is that there is a real lack of tie to the real world. Potential teachers at least, have a semester or a couple of quarters of student teaching in the classroom before graduating. Of course how hands on that is is a matter of the individual teacher, but at least they get it. Few other degree programs offer much in the way of actually enlightening a student how to be an employee.

Fri Oct 27, 11:42:06 AM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Morning Dark Wraith

Okay, everyone here shouldn't squirm: you're allowed to forget things like the names of anti-trust laws as you age. What I wonder is, if I gave the names of some of those laws, would people remember hearing about any of them in school? Ditto for labor laws.

Uh-oh. I just had a great idea.


Something tells me there'll be a pop quiz waiting for us pretty soon!

OT, but seriously, Dark One, quite awhile back I posted a link on the message board about a new solar panel from (IBM? or Intel - I know it started with * I *) made of doped crystals that was over 90% efficient, and could , when put in sunlight, heat up to over 900 degrees (or something similar, it was awhile back). I cannot find the link anymore, and the post was too old to be reposted last time you fixed the message board. I was wondering, when you redo the board this time, if you come across that post in your backups, could you send me that link. I would be eternally grateful.

Fri Oct 27, 12:00:58 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Afternoon Dark Wraith

And as to the RFID, they're also going to put it in passports soon, so get yours now!

Students uniformly cannot do this anymore because they are so conditioned to take tests through linear, one-to-one learning.

There's another group of people who this administration doesn't want to be able to do rational critical thinking: our next wave of soldiers.

Hey - Be all that you can be, in the army, of one!

(and that's the most specious claim I've heard in awhile)

Fri Oct 27, 12:22:59 PM EDT  
 Moody Blue blogged...

I'd love a front row ticket to that Open House!

Oh... okay, I'll play: Taft-Hartley Act, 1947. (But please, don't make me dig out my ancient high school books!)

“A teacher affects eternity; he can never tell where his influence stops.” ~ Henry Adams

Wraith, thank you for this:

There are two principal problems with forgiving those who trespass against you. First, forgiveness is sometimes nothing more than another name for fear, a false means by which the call to just retribution can be set aside. Second, forgiving a monster assures that it will harm others after you, thereby making you guilty of enabling it to do so.

Even the best of people can be afraid of incurring a monster's wrath; but fear is just an emotion, and as such it can be overcome.

Guilt, on the other hand, is not an emotion; it is a fact, and as such it cannot be overcome. Not within a good person's heart, anyway.

Choose, then, both wisely and sparingly those whom you forgive that you will not be forced later to beg forgiveness from those who suffered because you had forgiven a raging monster.


Those are very wise words, Wraith.

“Teachers are those who use themselves as bridges, over which they invite their students to cross; then having facilitated their crossing, joyfully collapse, encouraging them to create bridges of their own.” ~ Nikos Kazantzakis

(And, of course, Blogger commenting system, at the moment, is acting slower than molasses running uphill in a sub-zero January, oh doncha know? Sigh.)

:-)

Sat Oct 28, 07:40:35 AM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

Late to this conversation, but DAMN that is one vinegary rant you posted!!

GOOD FOR YOU! I COMPLETELY AGREE!

- oddjob

Sun Oct 29, 09:10:56 AM EST  
 Eric A Hopp blogged...

Dark Wraith:

A group of students all from one high school (and these are pretty honest, straight-shooting young people) swore to God several weeks ago that they had never heard of the New Deal or the Great Society. I'm pretty darned sure they were telling the truth because some of them were really interested in the whole idea of the conflict between the conservatives and liberals cast as a difference of beliefs about the role of government in managing the macroeconomy.

The kids today have never heard of the New Deal or Great Society programs??? GOOD LORD--What the frack are we teaching these kids?

Going back in time to my own junior high school U.S. history class, I seem to recall that the course mainly concentrated on U.S. history from the Native American period to just after the post-Civil War reconstruction period. After that, we just received a gloss-over from around the 1880s to today. I never really got a chance to look into the Guilded Age, the Teapot Dome scandal, the rise of the labor movement, FDR's New Deal, or even the Great Society. And not only can this be seen through the high school, but also the college history course.

U.S. history needs to be divided into two courses--pre-Civil war and post-Civil war, where students are to be required to take both courses to satisfy the U.S. history requirements. Students need to understand that conflicts in American history existed on many levels, and that some of these conflicts are certainly inter-connected to each other. And yet, I fear that instead of teaching our students on how to think and understand conflicts, we're spoon-feeding an ideology to make these young people mindless drones, accepting whatever Corporate America and the Republican Party tells them?

Sun Oct 29, 03:54:27 PM EST  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

I recomment to everyone Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States".

Wed Nov 01, 11:48:40 PM EST  
 Anonymous blogged...

My 8th grade history ended right at The Gilded Age (with my teacher reading us a little from The Jungle, by Upton Sinclair), and then in 11th grade (after covering other cultures in 9th & 10th grade) picked up there and continued on into present day.

- oddjob

Fri Nov 03, 02:39:52 AM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, OddJob.

Although differences did exist in history curriculum sequence, even several decades ago there was quite a bit of uniformity across the country as far as history education went in grades six through twelve. To some extent, it had to do with a consistency of education of the teachers, themselves, but it also had to do with the way in which standards were articulated from the federal government to the states to the districts. Even without a Department of Education—as there was no such thing back in that time—the federal government and quasi-governmental and private organizations were amazingly effective in keeping everybody (almost literally) on the same page when it came to instruction; and this wasn't the case only in history: math and (to some extent, but not quite so much) English were also quite uniform in scope and sequence clear down to the primary grades.

Now, we replace those old guidance mechanisms with a politicized Department of Education at the federal level, complete as it is with its abominable cure-all in the form of standardized testing, and we get wildly divergent interventions at the state level, especially in states like Ohio, where none other than Ken Blackwell, himself, has stuffed curriculum standards panels with religious zealots like that creationist fellow who got his dissertation on teaching Creationism to high school kids shot down at The Ohio State University.

It's a mess, and it's going to take more than a little time to fix, should we ever decide to do so. That would, of course, require among other things that we tell the religious nuts to shut up and get back into their churches to preach their non-academic silliness instead of foisting it off on kids. It would also require that we tell more than a few academics to shut up and get their hare-brained, New Age pedagogies out of the classroom, too.


The Dark Wraith thinks the best solution would be to put all the twits in a school together and let them dumb each other down with their endless and unproductive philosophies of education.

Fri Nov 03, 06:18:34 PM EST  

       

Friday, October 20, 2006

Special Graphic Post:
Hallowe'en Politics Graphic #2

Cometh the Reaper



The Dark Wraith gives permission to use this graphic with attribute.

<< 19 Comments Total
 andi blogged...

Good morning, Dark Wraith.

This may quite possibly be my favorite Halloween greeting yet.

Many thanks.

~Andi

Fri Oct 20, 10:15:28 AM EDT  
 Mr. Shakes blogged...

LOL.

These graphics you've been creating have had me in stitches every time.

This may be the best yet.

I still worry we may be dissappointed in November, though. I thought it was looking pretty good for a time in '04, too. Though admittedly, it was nowhere near as promising as this.

Fri Oct 20, 10:22:56 AM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Love it Love it Love it!

Fri Oct 20, 03:03:17 PM EDT  
 Floyd blogged...

This graphic looks great, very good job.

Fri Oct 20, 07:12:26 PM EDT  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

Good evening Dark Wraith:

Have you heard that after the elections with so many republicans looking for work there are psych researchers who are proposing to start using republicans to fill the current shortage with laboratory rats. They have several good reasons why this should be beneficial.

1. There are more Republicans than rats right now

2. The researchers don't get attached to the Republicans like they do with the rats.

3. Republicans will do things that rats will not.

Fri Oct 20, 10:44:05 PM EDT  
 Moody Blue blogged...

Every one has been a great graphic, Wraith! This is my newest fav!

Even though Bush has acknowledged similarities between Iraq and Vietnam, no one should confuse him with either Johnson or Nixon: neither of those two previous Presidents had the stomach to keep fighting a losing war abroad while at the same time waging wholesale war on the Bill of Rights at home.

Word! And the Decider decided to "cut and run" from serving his country way back then, too.

Fri Oct 20, 10:53:43 PM EDT  
 Moody Blue blogged...

Minstrel Boy! LOL!

Fri Oct 20, 10:56:08 PM EDT  
 father tyme blogged...

DW,
Let's see if the "Horn Blows at Midnight" November 7th!

Sat Oct 21, 11:07:24 AM EDT  
 PoliShifter blogged...

Death Becomes NeoCons

They might like that as a T-Shirt Dark Wraith

Sun Oct 22, 07:02:03 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, good friends.

I am herewith apologizing profusely for my absence since Friday. Yet another death has occurred in my immediate family, this one making the third in the relatively short span of a few months.

Given that rather awful series of events, the last couple of graphics in this Hallowe'en Politics Graphics series might be even darker than usual.

I suppose, however, that the last of a string of funerals being that of the Republican Party will take the edge off what would otherwise be an unmemorable stretch of life.


The Dark Wraith might even wear something other than black to that last funeral.

Mon Oct 23, 10:49:15 AM EDT  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

Good Morning Dark Wraith:

My heartfelt condolences for your loss sir.

I would love to play banjo at a Republican funeral.

Mon Oct 23, 11:43:28 AM EDT  
 blackdog blogged...

Condolences to you, Dark One. I feel the same problem faces me as well with so many Aunts and Uncles in their 80's, parents too. I'll keep my black suit in good order.

Mon Oct 23, 05:21:27 PM EDT  
 oldwhitelady blogged...

Good afternoon, Dark Wraith.

I'm sorry to hear that you've lost another relative.

Mon Oct 23, 05:21:42 PM EDT  
 blackdog blogged...

The Dark Wraith, a strange name for one who illuminates so many so well. I feel fortunate to post here. Thank you, Dark Wraith.

Mon Oct 23, 05:25:25 PM EDT  
 Moody Blue blogged...

{{Wraith}}

Mon Oct 23, 08:51:11 PM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

Condolences to you and the family for having to walk this path yet again.

Tue Oct 24, 07:04:56 PM EDT  
 canuk blogged...

My sincere condolences my friend.

Wed Oct 25, 01:21:12 PM EDT  
 Missouri Mule blogged...

Darkest One,
My condolences to you and your family. (((Hugs))) dear friend.

Thu Oct 26, 01:04:23 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Oh Wraith, so sorry-

Having just attended a wake a couple of days ago for a beloved mentor, I have to say, we've both made it into that final segment of life where the final farewells begin to outnumber the joyous reunions. Grandchildren are supposed to cushion those blows, but with the economy going down the toilet, none of the six kids that I'm mom to have even started to think about a family.

{{hugs}} for you my friend, and the raising of a glass for departed ones- loved and not forgotten.

Fri Oct 27, 12:34:51 PM EDT  

       

Wednesday, October 18, 2006

Editorial:
Public Policy and Intolerance in Commerce

Pam Spaulding has published at her blog, Pam's House Blend, an article detailing the efforts by some cab drivers in Minneapolis to be granted exemption from anti-discrimination statutes. These individuals argue their right to free exercise of their religion, Islam, is infringed by statutes and regulations that punish them for refusing to provide taxi service to customers whose behaviors or lifestyles are contrary to the teachings of the Qur'an. Specifically, some Muslim cab drivers do not want to transport people who have wine in their possession. Also, a transgender person avows that she has repeatedly been refused service by cab drivers.

As Pam recaps in her post, the original article in the (Minneapolis) Star Tribune explains that cities across the U.S. and other countries have been grappling with demands by persons of certain religious affiliations for exemptions from anti-discrimination laws. As an example of such discrimination, some Muslim cab drivers refuse to transport blind people with seeing-eye dogs because dogs are haram ("unclean") according to the Qur'an.

Officials in Minneapolis have rejected the two-tiered system that would have allowed cab drivers at the airport to discriminate without having to go to the back of the line and start again waiting to pick up a fare. The reasoning behind the (Minneapolis) Metropolitan Airport Commission rejection of the Muslim cab drivers' request for exemption was that allowing Muslim drivers to decline fares without sanction "would amount to an acknowledgement that Shari'a, or Islamic law, is relevant to a routine commercial transaction." Moreover, and beyond the immediate matter of the Muslim cab drivers, making such an accommodation would likely be the first step onto a slippery slope where other groups claiming religious reasons for discrimination in commercial transactions would press their own demands for exemptions based upon a variety of religious tenets.

In the comments thread to Pam's post, I set forth a fundamental argument against government recognizing a commercial operation's right to discriminate, even when such discrimination arises as an expression of strict adherence to religious beliefs held by the owners or employees. In edited and extended form, I herewith present my statement originally published on that thread.
First, and as a general matter, the issue has to do with what is called "public policy." If we are to dispense with a world where government does not or should not exist, then we must accept that government has a duty to enact and enforce certain laws that promote order within the civil society. That means no business that anticipates earning revenues in that society may be permitted to act in a way that has been deemed contrary to what is right, just, and appropriate for securing, maintaining, and advancing that society. In a democracy, this ultimately places an affirmative and altogether compelling burden on the electorate to ensure that those who write laws promoting public policy see that such policy indeed expresses rightful action, just in its foundations and expressly beneficial to the good of the society.

In other words, it is a cop-out simply to throw up one's hands and say, "Every man for himself." It is far more difficult to be a responsible citizen insisting that decency and tolerance be the unwavering, guiding principles in determining what is public policy. Consequentially, it is the duty of the citizen to promote good public policy through the election of just, fair, and reasonable representatives and furthermore to actively participate in continuing dialogue with those elected representatives to ensure that they do not stray from proposing and enacting laws that ensure a fair and tolerant society for all, not merely for some.

Furthermore, once a reasoned and well-debated public policy is put into law and operation, both individuals and businesses must expect that, if they are to garner all of the benefits of the society and its embedded economy, they must abide by those rules. To the extent that they elect to do otherwise, they face not merely the risk of civil or criminal action, but also the certain scorn of the public at large for behaving in a manner that deviates from societal expectations.

Important to acknowledge in what has just been stated is that a society, acting through laws, regulations, and the very community, itself, can be neither authoritarian nor completely libertine: in the former case, the most mean-spirited and parochial expectations will be laid upon the members of a society; and in the latter, the public sector will have utterly abandoned to human nature, base as it would inevitably become, the duty to carefully, parsimoniously, and with good intentions shape the behaviors of its members. This, then, is the necessary duty—demanding as it does eternal vigilance—of the ideal society: that it not act with an iron and overbearing fist to impose strict standards of behavior, but neither that it for even a moment ignore its responsibility to appropriately but minimally circumscribe personal and commercial action.

Now, to the second point, related to, but more specific than, the first. Cab drivers earn their living by using the public's facilities: its streets, its sidewalks, and its other pedestrian and motorized traffic infrastructure. That means they are using what is not exclusively theirs, and as such, they must accept that public rules, not their own, are what matter. The cab drivers use that which the public pays to build, maintain, and upgrade, so they do not get a free ride either in terms of safety, licensing, and operating standards or in terms of actual conduct toward those who would use their services.

If they wish to engage in discrimination, first, they should find a society where public policy either does not exist or where laws or lack thereof express support for intolerance; and second, they should use only what they pay for and own completely and exclusively. It is wholly unacceptable and in no small measure inexcusable for the intolerant to expect a just, tolerant, and right society to allow them to conduct commercial operations using the public's facilities while ignoring the expressed will of that society for its members to be in their own conduct just, tolerant, and right.


The Dark Wraith has spoken.

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 Anonymous blogged...

Can my mail carrier, who is a social and political conservative, refuse to deliver my Progressive Populist, Nation, Sun Magazine, Z, because they violate her core beliefs?
Can the chief of police of our little town who believes in the biblical principal "spare the rod and spoil the child" condones spanking with a belt, be excused from intervening in a child abuse complaint involving disciplining a child with a belt?
Can the road crew that plows my road in the winter refuse to plow in front of my farm because I have pro-choice, anti-war signs in front of my house?
I could go on.

Thu Oct 19, 11:14:02 AM EDT  
 Debra blogged...

My views on medical providers refusing service on any grounds is well known. There are certain professions that should never be able to discriminate, for any reason. If they feel that strongly about their beliefs they need a new job.

Now that they have started on that slippery slope it is just a matter of time before they start refusing to serve a certain race or sex. Do they refuse to carry single women as fares because they are unaccompanied by a male relative?

Lately I've been thinking this thought. Please don't let the end of my life be like the beginning. Segregated and dismissed. My father used to say that Jimmy Carter, when he ran against Reagan, predicted the future of this country. North against South, rich against poor, men against women, black against white. Tolerance would go out the window. Dad also said we were just a few steps away from a police state.

He's been gone since '91.

As an aside, I wasn't going to vote this year, nothing much going on in CA that would affect national politics, but I'm re-registering (I moved) and I'm going to test out the new system and see how much trouble it is for me to vote. It should be interesting. Also, I will be able to complain with a clear conscience, knowing that I did the first part of my duty as a citizen and continue to do the second.

At least until they take me away or the country wakes up from its current stupor before there is nothing left to fight for.

Yes, I even depress myself.

Thu Oct 19, 12:43:11 PM EDT  
 Dad the Realist blogged...

Eloquently spoken as usual Dark One.

As an aside to debra, certain pharmacists have proclaimed because of their evangelical beliefs, they will not fill prescriptions for birth-control pills or other medications that they deem "anti-life".

Never in my wildest speculations when I was a kid fantasizing about life in the 21st century, I would be witnessing a fight for secular reasoning in the United States of America.

How can we build spaceships to the moon and beyond if we can't even agree about evolution and biological science being taught in grade school? I thought this issue was settled 80 years ago.

We are destined to fall into balkanized states, dangerously repleat with nuclear weapons. Not the 21st century I envisioned.

Thu Oct 19, 02:16:01 PM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

Good morning Mr. Wraith,

This topic is a slippery slope as you note, but equally so in the opposite direction of your arguement. That is, where do you draw the line with a private business and its right to create and service a customer base of its choosing?

Let's use two divergent examples. The scenarios presented above by anonymouse are all government businesses (if you will), supported by our tax dollars. The idea that the post office can pick its customer base (or discrimate if you want to call it that) would be socially unacceptable.

But let's say I own a tavern or diner in Washington (which I dont'), where the state recently passed a smoking ban. This ban precludes my smoking customers from now smoking indoors. If I want to exclude a customer base by having a smoking establishment, that should be my right. Conversely, if I want to cater to the nonsmokers, to be it. Anybody going out for a drink or dinner has a choice to make as to where to go, and I don't think government should dictate that private business should have to cater to everyone.

The bottomline is where do you draw the line on government control of a business? You make a good point with the taxi's use of public infastructure, and I agree, to a point (for the reason set forth in my first example). And I agree with Debra, because health care is (or can be) a vital society service that most of us eventually need. But is going out to dinner a social service? No, if I don't like smoke I'll find someplace that is smoke free, and if I can't, I'll eat at home. I don't feel I have the right to expect every private business to cater to my specific desires.

As a business owner that does consulting in a specific niche, we choose our customer base carefully based on several factors. We refuse, fairly frequently, to do repeat business with clients that are assholes, nitpick our invocies, lie, etc. Is that discrimination? I think not. Should the government be allowed to tell me I have to work for a client that will not pay according to the terms of our contract that they signed? I think not.

Thu Oct 19, 03:04:05 PM EDT  
 Debra blogged...

Oops, I forgot to add, and I don't mean to be racist but, don't they have a monopoly on cabs in this country? If they can practice their business according to Sharia law it would cripple the transportation system.

I'm sort of joking and sort of not.

Thu Oct 19, 03:41:08 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Afternoon Dark Wraith

Another fine and well thought out essay. A pleasure to read.

...the state recently passed a smoking ban. This ban precludes my smoking customers from now smoking indoors. If I want to exclude a customer base by having a smoking establishment, that should be my right.

You have that right - switch your "restaurant" to become a private, members only club. You could even give out memberships with every entree.

As long as you are a restaurant open to the general public, you come under the health rules of the state, including such things as using tongs in your salad bar, making your waitresses put their hair up and wear a hairnet, washing your hands after using the john... and there's an estimated 50,000 unnessessary deaths every year in this country from second hand smoke.

I read an article about it, and there was a deli owner in NYC who's wife never smoked a butt in her life. When she died early, the doctor who did the autopsy said her lungs were just like someone with a 30 year 2packs a day habit. She worked all the time in his deli. A lifetime smoker himself, he made his deli non-smoking the next day. And, contrary to all the fear and outrage, it didn't hurt his business, in fact he started getting compliments on the taste of his food - now that people could taste it without the smoke.

As for limiting your business to paying customers, and limiting the number of customers that you keep on your books, we have that right in any state. Doctors and dentists regularly close their practice when they have so many patients that they have no more room to schedule more.

But, for a muslim to refuse service to a blind person with a seeing eye dog - that's over the top. I say, if you can't do your job because of your religion, go get another job. period. I don't care if you're a taxi driver, a pharmacist, or even a doctor.

Fri Oct 20, 04:13:40 PM EDT  
 Progressive Traditionalist blogged...

Good morning, Mr Wraith.

You raise an interesting issue here.

It seems as if Vlassic is able to get by with selling kosher pickles only because reasonable people are able to say, "Damn your kosher pickles! I'll take the unclean ones!"

Not quite wholly OT, but it has come to my attention that, if you place some he-mimes in a field of she-mimes, a lot of little mimes running about is not the precise consequence.

And approaching the issue from another angle: I have seen the word "bona" used in newspaper ads, for "bi-lingual only need apply." This reminds me of some paper I had to write for history class where we had to use the micro-fiche to cite the NYT as 2 sources. The time-frame was the late 1800s, and the word "nina," for "no Irish need apply," was quite common.

The above example of "bona" is from a Texas newspaper. In Florida, I found a more diverse hispanic community, and never saw this listed as a qualification.

Sat Oct 21, 08:39:49 AM EDT  
 Wild Clover blogged...

Gypsy-
I was going to let this pass, but after the third time reading it I couldn't.

estimated 50,000 unnessessary deaths every year in this country from second hand smoke.

Estimated? It is "estimated" by radical woman's "empowerment" groups that 3 out of 4 women are raped during their lifetime too...I've seen how that number was gotten, and it is basically BS. I haven't seen any of the second hand smoke estimates by the smoking natzis using much better criteria. Numbers don't lie, but liars figure, or at least can manipulate the data to suit. Like correlating sunspots, women's dress length, and facial hair with election results.

I read an article about it, and there was a deli owner in NYC who's wife never smoked a butt in her life. When she died early, the doctor who did the autopsy said her lungs were just like someone with a 30 year 2packs a day habit. She worked all the time in his deli. A lifetime smoker himself, he made his deli non-smoking the next day. And, contrary to all the fear and outrage, it didn't hurt his business,

Yeah, and my father out-law has emphesma due to simply living his first 20 years in NYC. He neither smoked, nor hung out in smoky bars (well, he was hippified, so maybe there was some smoke involved, but not tobacco). How come she got so sick from the second-hand smoke, yet her smoking hubby didn't? Once again, the most even studies I've seen have shown smoking to be more dangerous than second hand smoke, so by rights, he should have croaked.

in fact he started getting compliments on the taste of his food - now that people could taste it without the smoke.

What, he didn't get compliments before?How the hell did he stay in business? What he was getting was compliments from the non-smokers making a point from their view. Personally, I smoke, and I am damn glad my taste buds are not more sensitive than they are. I habitually re-create spicing and such from restaurant meals I've enjoyed with great success.

It comes down to freedom. I do not smoke in the house, and tolerate the non-smoking sections because my family all has asthma. If I am alone, I tend to go eat as my mood strikes, but given two restaurants with equivelent menus, I'll go to the one where I can summon my food by lighting up (it never arrives between cigs), and end with a cup of coffee and a smoke. No one is forced to sit in a smoking establishment. Now, I am quite behind laws requiring adequate ventilation and separation between sections. But an outright ban is one of those things I find against the libertarian in me. I choose to smoke. I have had idiot non-smokers choose to sit downwind of me just so they can complain. I don't like other people's smoke in my face either, and I smoke. I will even be courteous and consider the wishes of a non-smoker when they are courteous to me. Tell me you promise not to fart if I don't smoke(which a fellow did once) just makes me blow my smoke in your direction.

The new whipping boy for the superior sort who needs someone to despise once negroes went out of style was the smoker. Smokers at this point are so pussy-whipped and convinced they are bad people that the mob turned on the gays. The gays fought back pretty effectively, so now the new victims to bash are immigrants/illegal immigrants or muslims. The smokers have been by far the most lucrative choice as victim.

Tue Oct 24, 11:31:14 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

The smokers have been by far the most lucrative choice as victim.

You certainly got that right!! They were trying just last year to raise the taxes on cigarettes AGAIN in CT. I had to write a letter to Gov Rell and tell her to back off! I have a co-worker who smokes, has tried to quit over and over, but has a very stressful life, taking care of first her twin sister who was dying of MS, then her best friend's husband who was dying of smoking. She barely makes enough to get by, and they wanted to raise the tax on her again, the fart-faces! I also think the idiots who are trying to outlaw smoking in public OUTSIDE are out of their freakin' minds. I'm just waiting for them to try to outlaw smoking in your own living room, if you have kids.

But, I've lived thru two different states' moving to ban butts in public places, and the same arguments were made and the same arguments were proven to be bogus. I think if a restaurant has a completely separate and good ventilation system, they should be able to have a smoking room, but who should be forced to work in there, and what would the liability be??

I've also wondered how they got those stats on second hand smoke deaths, but the same numbers keep coming up and are accepted. If they were wrong, surely after 10 years they would have been discredited by the rich companies that make butts... no?

Fri Oct 27, 12:52:10 PM EDT  
 Wild Clover blogged...

Oh, the big tobacco companies have done studies-do they get much airtime? No, because they are immediately discredited as being biased. Nevermind that the other studies are equally biased as being commissioned by agencies who have a vested interest in gaining some of the tobacco profits for themselves-be it idiot smokers winning lawsuits "because they didn't know it was bad for them"(tobacco has been known as harmful and rather nasty for almost as long as it has been used...read Sherlock Holmes stories and it is mentioned there. Common sense says that if smoke inhallation in a burning building is bad for your lungs, then purposely inhaling smoke is bad for your lungs. Agggh.)Or be it polititions who see an opportunity to raise taxes without political backlash, either through things like the "tobacco settlement" giving their states money to do stuff with, or by directly raising the per-pack price. I've seen mention of studies that were in direct contradiction to the evils of second-hand smoke, as well as those that called it worse than ist hand smoke. Problems I've seen are that either the studies are small-too small-or in the large ones there is no way to sort out the myriad environmental and genetic variables...Like my father outlaw whose emphesema is caused by living in NYC and a genetic predisposition, not smoking. Hell, my dad smoked for years, his chest x-rays a couple years later showed no signs he'd ever smoked, yet now he has lung problems due to asbestosis(at least that is the assumption-a firm diagnosis would have involved examining each cell of his pleura under a microscope). I cannot see any way to do a truly controlled experiment to prove the numbers one way or another unless you purposely blow smoke at a group of homogeneous folks in a confined, controlled environment. And the thought of doing possibly deadly experiments on prisoners or military personell is to me Un-American(though it has been done). Maybe buy some poor kids to experiment on and help drop the poverty rate to study the effect on kids?

Sat Oct 28, 01:33:07 PM EDT  

       

Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Special Analysis:
Costs to the U.S. of 20th and 21st Century Wars

GWOTIn the aftermath of the attacks upon the United States of September 11, 2001, President George W. Bush officially declared a Global War on Terror (GWOT), which came to involve military operations and security measures conducted abroad and within the United States. The three principal operations comprising GWOT are Operation Enduring Freedom, covering Afghanistan and other GWOT operations; Operation Noble Eagle providing enhanced security at military bases; and Operation Iraqi Freedom. Within each of these three operations, funds are allocated among all or some of the following: military operations, base security, reconstruction, foreign aid, embassy costs, and veterans’ health care. According to the Congressional Research Service (CRS) in its June 14, 2006, report for Congress, "The Cost of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Other Global War on Terror Operations Since 9/11," the combined cost across the three primary operations of GWOT had reached $437 billion.

The table and associated graphics below present the cost of GWOT to June 2006 in comparison to approximate costs incurred by the United States in the major conflicts in which it engaged during the 20th Century. All data other than for GWOT were derived from the Statistical Summary, America's Major Wars Webpage of the U.S. Civil War Center (USCWC) of Louisiana State University. The cost to June 2006 of GWOT was obtained from the Congressional Research Service as cited above, and the population estimate for the United States in calculating the per capita cost of GWOT was estimated at 299 million, based upon recent U.S. Census Bureau data. USCWC cost figures for wars of the 20th Century were presented at the USCWC Website in 1990 dollars, but are presented here in 2006 dollars based upon adjustments made using consumer price index data provided by the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics, inflating the USCWC data from the year each war ended to the present. (Note that on the USCWC site, the 1990 cost equivalent of World War I is incorrect: the figure reported there is $97 billion dollars, but the original cost of the war, which was $26 billion, would be $225 billion in 1990 dollars.) War durations were derived from war timelines at Infoplease.com.

Readers are cautioned that, unlike the other wars presented below, the Global War on Terror is not yet completed and will not be in the foreseeable future. This will most specifically affect total cost of the conflict, but may also affect both monthly and per capita costs depending upon the level and direction of future expenditures.


Total Cost of U.S. Conflicts

Monthly Cost of U.S. Conflicts

Per Capita Cost of U.S. Conflicts


The Dark Wraith encourages a careful review of the data presented above.

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 Mr. Shakes blogged...

Good morning, Dark Wraith.

I'm afraid you must have made a mistake somewhere. As everyone knows, the Titanic Battle of Civilizations that we are currently fighting is unprecedented both in scope and importance. So serious is our situation that we have been forced to shred the constitution and place such outmoded ideas as Habeus Corpus on hold - perhaps indefinitely. Indeed we may even need to elect our current president to the newly minted office of Dictator for Life, such is our need for stability in this time of desperate, life-or-death struggle with Afghani cave-dwellers.

Please, swap the numbers for WWII and GWoT back into their proper places and cease this transparent attempt at misinformation.

Tue Oct 17, 11:39:08 AM EDT  
 BadTux blogged...

Also of interest, Wraith, would be the percentage of GDP sucked up by each war. The state of the nation's economy as a whole may be an important factor in detirmining whether a specific cost is long-term sustainable or not.

This is especially true since military production is essentially "lost" to the economy as vs. virtually all other heavy capital investment. A fighter plane is not useful for creating further economic inputs, whereas a jet airliner increases economic efficiencies by reducing the amount of time spent on travel and increasing the amount of time spent on production and thus, in economic terms, pays for itself over time (otherwise in a free market no one would ever buy or fly a jet airliner!). The inputs that went into the fighter plane are essentially lost to productive use, just as human capital used as soldiers are essentially lost to the economy since they are producing neither goods nor services of use to the rest of the economy (unless, as with North Korea, you use the soldiers to run factories and harvest crops then claim to have a million man Army when what you really have is a million men who may or may not know which end of a rifle goes 'bang' but sure know how to harvest crops well!).

For those who are confused by my above paragraph, I believe it is important to remember that goods and services are the point of an economy, rather than pretty pieces of paper with pictures of dead Presidents. Said pictures of dead Presidents without goods and services to exchange for them are just so many pieces of toilet paper. Economic growth consists of growing the amount of goods and services provided by an economy. Military spending, since it reduces the amount of goods and services in an economy by diverting some of them to other uses not useful for further growing the economy, thus is a net negative to an economy. Its long-term sustainability depends upon whether there are sufficient remaining resources (after some are diverted to military use) to continue at least maintaining the per-capita production of goods and services in the economy. When you fail to do that, you get the Soviet Union circa 1992, an economy in free-fall where, due to starvation of capital investment due to the militarization of the economy, even the ability to maintain a viable military goes into drastic decline.

-BT

Tue Oct 17, 12:09:41 PM EDT  
 Missouri Mule blogged...

"And they fall back, over and over, on a resort of force (in its various expressions....war, law, taxation, rules, and regulations)which is extremely costly, instead of employing power which is very economical."

Dr. David R. Hawkins

Kinda makes you wonder to what degree man really knows anything! Pride does seem to goeth before a fall. Man has habitually died for pride---armies still regularly slaughter each other for that aspect of it called nationalism. Religious wars, political terrorism and zealotry, the ghastly history of the Middle East and Central Europe----this are all the price of pride, which all society pays. Arrogant, pompous pride. How else could something so outrageous as war even occur?

"The war to end all wars," did no such thing, nor could it possibly have done so. Wars--including wars on "vice," "drugs," or any of the human needs regularly traded for in the great hidden social market place that underlies conventional commerce.... can only be won by choosing peace.

Tue Oct 17, 03:00:56 PM EDT  
 blackdog blogged...

Can anyone imagine what could have been done with the literally trillions of $s wasted by this idiot misadministration? The gawddamned fools. I apologize to the Dark One for my outburst. I now go out back to kick some fleas.

Tue Oct 17, 05:12:08 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, blackdog.

We could, of course, have done quite a few things that didn't involve death and destruction. We might even have been able to topple the Ba'athist regime in Iraq by means other than brute force that has ultimately led to a total body count that would make Saddam Hussein, himself, blush.

We could have done some work on U.S. infrastructure—oh, say, maybe we could have upgraded some levees along the coast, perhaps done some work on rotting inner cities (which people seem to forget still exist), spent some money on cleaning up the penal system and making it actually effective instead of merely punitive, worked on some cures for diseases, done some research on why rates of premature birth are rising all over the world, looked into the causes and effective mitigations for workplace and schoolhouse violence...

Oh, well. At least we have some got some nice postcards from Baghdad.


The Dark Wraith thinks we should count our blessings.

Tue Oct 17, 05:37:36 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, SB Gypsy.

It seems to me that some of the achievements for which I can look back with some degree of relief are the moments when I didn't let pride get in the way of a good solution to a problem. Unfortunately, that satisfaction is to some extent lessened by knowing that the prideful often get mistaken for the bold, and hubris is mistaken way too often for conviction and certainty. The distinctions are fine, and they are lost on the many people who are all too willing to reward stupidity because they think it is something other than that.

It seems to me there's some lessons we might want to give to children before they grow up to be Republicans.


The Dark Wraith ought to write a curriculum plan about that.

Tue Oct 17, 05:42:49 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternooon, BadTux.

Yes, I thought long and hard about the percent-of-GDP problem, but it's one I'd have to do a considerably more detailed analysis in order to present results. The problem is that all of these wars spanned months if not years, so I would have to break down the costs on a specific month-by-basis, then divide by the GDP for each relevant month. That would require seasonal adjustments not only of the GDP, but also of the expenditures on the particular war.

I could do it by year, but that would make the shorter conflicts challenging, especially the Gulf War since it lasted only three months.

Also, the longest of the conflicts was the Vietnam War, which spanned nearly a decade. Through that time, the war could very well have had, first, a stimulative effect on GDP, then a debilitating effect (the latter being entirely complicated by the fact that it was occurring in the same time frame as some other tumultuous, global economic circumstances).

That point above has to be taken into account: by Keynesian logic, wars have a stimulative, if inflationary, effect. Depending upon where a nation is in the cycle of moving along and then across Phillips curves, the inflationary effects of over-monetization of the war effort can come to bear either almost immediately or considerably later, complicating any effort to correct for its pecuniary effects on GDP numbers reported at the time the conflict is under way.

Tough treading—the kind of stuff that might be worthy of a decent master's thesis, if for no other reason than to offer a sound way to capture total output of an economy over a long period of time in comparison to expenditures on a war that might very well be actually differentially and variably affecting those very same numbers.


The Dark Wraith is getting way too deep into thinking about econometric modeling and signal processing analysis writing about this.

Tue Oct 17, 05:55:30 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, Mr. Shakes.

Yes, this GWOT is most decidely a run-of-the-mill affair: by quite a few of the metrics, it is very similar to most conflicts of the 20th Century, with World War II being the 800-pound gorilla exception. That in itself is sort of telling, don't you think?—perhaps an indicator of when we are in a real fight against something very, very real and menacing, as opposed to when we're in a fight that isn't of the same character and quality.

One thing that sort of bothers me in those numbers and graphs, and this is purely the data analyst in me coming out with some gut sense: this GWOT looks by the numbers in some ways way too much like Vietnam. It's hard to put my finger on any one thing in those graphs or that table, but I swear there's something in that stream of visuals that just whispers "Vietnam... quagmire... long, long haul."

It might just be me, though. I hope so.


The Dark Wraith shouldn't look at graphs so intently.

Tue Oct 17, 06:01:36 PM EDT  
 jahf blogged...

How much is 2,700+ American dead worth in US dollars? (Given American attitudes about ragheads, I won't even bother to ask about 655,000 Iraqi dead.)

Tue Oct 17, 10:41:16 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, jahf.

Multiply 2700 by $6 million.

That's a rough estimate in a government accounting sort of way.

You get $16.2 billion. That would be about 3.2 percent of the $437 billion the U.S. has expended to date in GWOT.

As is often the case in valuation of human lives, the dead aren't the greatest financial cost; it's the severely wounded, particularly those who are maimed, crippled, or otherwise impaired. American soldiers are surviving extraordinary battlefield injuries (both physical and psychological), and there are at least five costs involved in this morbid calculus:

1) Direct costs associated with immediate care to ensure survival in the hours and days after injury.
2) Direct costs of rehabilitation.
3) Direct costs of payments to those deemed partially or totally disabled.
4) Opportunity cost of lost earning power.
5) Extended hidden costs on family, friends, and others whose lives are redirected and in many cases diminished due to the impairment of the injured soldier.

Some costs are difficult, but by no means impossible, to calculate or at least estimate. Taking all of this into account, just as a number to toss out, if the 3.2 percent is a decent place to start with cost of mortality, then we could put about twice that percentage out as a starter for the wounded, putting us in the ballpark of maybe ten percent of GWOT, only part of which is actually included in the official $437 billion figure, and only part of which will be seen by the individual, his or her family, and the society at large in the short run. Many of the problems will incur more visibly as costs years later; and even then, only some of those costs that show up will ever be associated with GWOT. This is especially true in the case of children of wounded and killed soldiers, where you'll see both stark and subtle behavioral problems as these children grow up and become productive adults impaired because of family disruptions.

Going beyond that, you will see all kinds of secondary effects of dead and wounded soldiers. As an example, in the years ahead, once it soaks into the American electorate's thick skull that both attacking and occupying Iraq and Afghanistan the way we did were just plain stupid, that electorate will become quite gun-shy for a very, very long time about the use of military force; and that could be a disaster were there really an important reason to do so. Effectively, by the neo-cons using the armed forces of the United States as their little toy that blew up in our faces, we as a nation could very well become absolutely toothless across the globe, both because we will have depleted our will to use all means at our disposal when the situation merits military intervention (which should be extemely rare, anyway, and most likely in genuine—not pretend—coordination with a strong and reasoned coalition) and because our military will have been weakened to the point where it wouldn't be nearly as effective as possible even if we were to use it.

Eventually, I fear that we are going to become isolationists once again. It would be an extraordinarily rare circumstance where we would ever have a need to use firepower, but short of that, we are going to have to pull our horns in diplomatically, economically, and even psychologically for quite a long time, and we'll be doing that at one of the very worst times to be hiding under the blankets.

Now, jahf, I do know that your question was somewhat rhetorical, but my purpose in the extended answer I have provided is to point out that it isn't enough to simply declare a war as "incalculable" and beyond any metrics of association. That's not the way I analyze the world. When I look at the numbers and the graphs, I can see relationships between and among wars, and that helps me inordinately in understanding the path a particular war is going to take or, at the very least, the likely bounds on probable outcomes.

In the case of GWOT, as I noted above to Mr. Shakes, I see a garden-variety war of opportunity, pretty much the very same kind as we dabbled in over and over again throughout the 20th Century, except that it has the look and feel--from both the numbers and from the on-the-ground, human reporting--of another Vietnam: protracted; economically stimulating at first, then economically debilitating as it drags on; expensive; and ultimately unsuccessful in a way that diminishes the society at both the individual levels of soldiers and their families and at the level of the civil society, itself. And this is to say nothing about the long-term damage to the peoples of the victimized countries and to countries that bear the secondary effects of our insanity (as in the case of Europe right now, which is being flooded with cheap heroin thanks to our "allies," the Afghan warlords, who are back to their ancient business of cranking out the dope like there's no tomorrow).

The costs, both direct and indirect, are difficult to calculate, but the matter has to be undertaken; and I'll tell you this right now, jahf: I tore up a whole lot of turf trying to come up with these numbers. I thought to myself that, surely, this stuff is right out there where everyone can find it. Guess what?—it isn't, at least not where it's all easy for people to see.

As such, while others are rightfully talking about the human and social and psychological components of the outrages of this Administration, it serves no good purpose to ignore the hard-core valuation analysis, which is sometimes the only thing that gets politicians off their fat asses: when they start to see the costs going through the roof, that might get them motivated where protesters chanting, "Hey-hey, ho-ho; George Bush must go!" won't have much effect.

It's my craft, and it's part of the tapestry that presses the powers that be to once in a while pay attention to something other than their craven "Let's git tuff on somethin' 'cause that'll git us some o' them-thar redneck votes" mentality.

Once in a while, it's important to cut to the numbers.


The Dark Wraith can bring attention to bear both by numbers and by rhetoric, but has no desire to give up one just to be exclusive for the other.

Tue Oct 17, 11:48:13 PM EDT  
 Mr. Shakes blogged...

Good evening, Dark Wraith.

I think that once you take WWI out of the mix (a conflict to which the U.S.A.'s contribution was comparitively marginal), and look at the monthly cost of each war, you get a pretty good idea of how much effort was expended on each of them. And it seems as though the monthly cost is the factor that most stongly correlates with the outcome. Vietnam, Korea and the GWoT all used up vast quantities of resources over long periods of time, but the overhwelming and sudden projection of power that is evident in the WWII and Gulf War numbers doesn't make an appearance. Instead we have just the long drip-drip of inevitable defeat, stalemate and disaster.

So I think you're right when you suggest that the GWoT has some numerical similarities to Vietnam. Especially when you consider that today's ordanance is exponentially more expensive. A fact which makes the GWoT numbers seem even less impressive.

Of course, this ignores the unique characterisitics of each war, and we're talking about a very small sample, but I share your gut instinct on this. Obviously, I wasn't around when Vietnam was being fought, but when I read about the history of that time I am struck by the familiar texture that those events share with today. Taken all together, it paints a bleak picture.

Wed Oct 18, 12:09:07 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Mr. Shakes.

And it's that gut sense that gives me this sick feeling.

I don't foresee any candidate from either party getting us out of there in the foreseeable future. Even if a candidate strongly in favor of a date certain for withdrawal were to be elected President in 2008, he or she would face an almost insurmountable challenge in the act of extricating us. Quite literally, the neo-cons have created such a mess that, if we stay, we get bled to death, but if we leave, the place simply degenerates into an even worse mess (if that's possible) than it is already. Even bleaker is that we've stirred up all kinds of parties in the region with interests that are not even close to being compatible with ours; and they're going to be slowly depleting us as we stay, and overrunning the situation if we leave.

I don't think one could have deliberately designed a more perfect mess than the Bush Administration has created.

But I'll tell you this much: Bush and his cabal have created a terrible temptation for the next President. By building that unbelievably ridiculous embassy complex there in Baghdad, the neo-cons have effectively created something that only the strongest-willed of future Presidents would have the strength to simply walk away from.

And as we establish war bases in Iraq, we'll have even more incentive to stay as a presence for a very, very long time. Essentially, the argument (fallacious as it is, falling as it does under the famous "sunk cost fallacy") will go like this: "Look at all the money we've spent on these military bases and on that embassy! Surely no one would expect us to just up and leave, what with all that stuff we've gotten set up and with all that money we've spent."

That's an argument (again, completely fallacious) that almost no future leadership in this country will be able to resist.

God! but it's depressing, especially when I get this vision of a day maybe ten years from now when televisions are showing the last U.S. helicopters pulling up and away from rooftops at that embassy in Baghdad just minutes before insurgents by the thousands overrun the place.


The Dark Wraith needs to find a neo-con to kick in the backside.

Wed Oct 18, 12:29:58 AM EDT  
 BlondeSense Liz blogged...

Good Morning, Dark One,
Your graphics are fabulous as usual and very illustrative of the dire situation.

Probably, no nation is rich enough to pay for both war and civilization. We must make our choice; we cannot have both.
~Abraham Flexner

Wed Oct 18, 12:47:21 AM EDT  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

Good Evening Dark Wraith:

Indeed, getting out of Iraq could be an even worse exercise. I have been worried about the eight mile trip from the green zone to the airport for quite awhile. They might find themselves in a La Noche Triste situation trying to get away from the angry multitude they have created.

As far as the value of a human life I offer this little tale of my college days.....
Back when I was fresh out of the military I decided to cash in on the G.I. Bill, this was in the late 70's when, if you were in a State or other reasonably priced institution you could get a decent education in return for your years of service. Having spent the last eight years in the Navy, three of those years in Viet Nam, with two more years in other, smaller conflicts in Africa and Central America I was wrapped a wee bit tighter than the usual undergraduate student.

Philosophy 101 was its usual bullshit self. The Professor was a notorious Pinko who had helped to organise various student demonstrations against Viet Nam. He had a hard on for veterans. He would single us out for little sarcasms and petty insults, he would blue pencil the living shit out of any paper we had the audacity to turn in.

I had no problem with anyone that was a anti-war protester. Still don't. A very close friend of mine who is a brilliant singer/songwriter chose to go to Canada rather than submit to the draft and I respected his choice then as I do now. I really have little problem with a person that chooses to follow the dictates of their conscience. What you have to remember though, is that I had spent the last five years in extreme circumstances, getting shot at and hit three times. What I had a problem with was not the man's politics but his pettiness. Usually his asides and snubs were done publicly for the entertainment of the young women who flocked around him and hung out in the hallways waiting for “office hours” and the like.

One afternoon we were in the lecture hall and Professor S. was up at the front grandstanding for the women again and he reached a point in the lecture where he rhetorically asked, “And what is the value of a human life?”

Without thinking I blurted “Eighty five bucks.”

He said “Who said that?”

I rose and said “I did Professor S.”

“How did you arrive at that figure?”

I replied, “That's what they charge you extra in Bangkok if you kill the girl.”

There was nothing but silence. I sat down and opened my notebook. When I looked up he was still standing there, his face blank and pale. I said:

“Please, do continue, I'm sorry I interrupted.”

Inside I was laughing my ass off.


I did become far better behaved in the classroom. Unless, of course, they only gave me the diploma to get rid of me....

Wed Oct 18, 04:01:56 AM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Morning Dark Wraith

I must admit I'm amazed that the brief time spent in WWII cost that much money. In High School my World Civ teacher would ask us baby boomers a trick question each year: Why War? What's it good for?

My answer (it's good for the economy) was gleaned from dinner conversation that I was not invited to participate in. My teacher was overjoyed that someone actually finally got the right answer. It was soon proven erroneous by VietNam.

Military spending, since it reduces the amount of goods and services in an economy by diverting some of them to other uses not useful for further growing the economy, thus is a net negative to an economy.

WWII was different than the rest on your list, because it precipitated a retooling of industry unprecedented in our history. And that retooling is the reason that we are not quite yet on the metric standard. (only a cretin would throw out all those shiny new tools - so we wait for them to all grow so old and outmoded that they will be discarded)

It was also one of the reasons our economy took off after the war - to exhibit a sudden prosperity also unprecedented in our history. I wonder, if WWII had not been so wildly successful, would we have jumped into the rest of these messes with such enthusiasm?

Wed Oct 18, 11:49:06 AM EDT  

       

Saturday, October 14, 2006

Special Graphic Post:
Hallowe'en Politics Graphic #1

Party's OVER, Neo-Cons!



The Dark Wraith gives permission to use this graphic with attribute.

<< 11 Comments Total
 Moody Blue blogged...

Grr-reat grr-raphic, Wraith!

First item of business when the Democrats take over Congress: A resolution asking President Bush if it's okay to kick his fascist ass.*

*(He'll probably say, "No," and that will be the end of the matter as far as some of those spineless donkeys are concerned.)


;->

Sat Oct 14, 07:04:28 PM EDT  
 Floyd blogged...

I second that Great Graphic, and will look forward to making this coming year the year of the duck,'LAME' that is.

Sat Oct 14, 08:53:08 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Floyd.

Yes, I do have hope for this coming election, but as OddJob noted well, we have little reason to believe, based upon past experience and knowledge of the manufacturers of the voting machines, that the outcomes of the elections will reflect the will of the electorate.

SB Gypsy asked me what is to be done. At that moment, I was not particularly well prepared to set forth an answer. I'm still not sure I like the answer I have, but it's just about time for me to bring the matter up in a far more formal and challenging way. Hence, within the next week, I shall be publishing a post of rather modest length in which I shall elucidate the options before us.

Should the Republicans hold on to power in both the Senate and the House of Representatives—this, against all evidence of a sea change in voter thinking that has finally come about—the options are few.

Worse, the options are all bad.

But whatever choice we make, my graphic still stands: the party is over for the neo-cons. It might be in the months after November 7, 2006, or it might be in the years afterward; but the party will be over.

It is one thing to be civilized; it is quite another to be enslaved by civility.


The Dark Wraith should probably lay off the rhetoric until he's had time to get his own spine in order.

Sat Oct 14, 09:36:54 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

And by the way, for those who are regulars here at The Dark Wraith Forums, the commenter above, Floyd, hosts the blog "Within Reason," which recently entered syndication in the blogScream News Wire service.

Floyd's blog is really solid: good content, handsome layout; so if you have a chance, go have a look and a read.


The Dark Wraith is always on the lookout for good blogs.

Sat Oct 14, 09:44:19 PM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

Mr. Wraith, you've become quite graphic in your distaste for the current administration - good for you.

Mon Oct 16, 12:28:20 AM EDT  
 Frederick blogged...

There is only one thing that can be done (on our level) volunteer with the board of elections in your district. Get boots on the ground, make sure it's free and fair with your own eyes.

Mon Oct 16, 08:25:30 AM EDT  
 father tyme blogged...

DW,
What's that thing about chickens and eggs?
While I'm hopeful of a positive outcome for the Democrats, I think recent history may be on the side of the Republicans; or rather the re-written history of Diebold.
The Republicans can lose quite a few seats and still retain power. I feel that may be the case in the closely contested races. I think the fix is in to just get enough Diebolds to keep power. And if Lieberman gets the hacked vote, we can count on him switching to the Dark Side.
Will the exit polls be wrong again?

Mon Oct 16, 08:44:30 AM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

I believe I read this morning over at TPMCafe that Rove & Shrub are inexplicably upbeat about the election. Rove anticipates maintaining majority status in both houses, losing no more than 8-10 seats in the House.

I can't help smelling a rat.

- oddjob

Mon Oct 16, 11:58:50 AM EDT  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

there's still a couple weeks of october left...i mailed my absentee ballot today...i refused to vote for any incumbents at the federal level. we shall see what the "surprise" is. i'm currently reading "state of denial" and the level of self delusion they are capable of is something that you would have to go to a hippie commune in alaska to find. (read t.c. boyle's "drop city") but they may still be up to something nefarious. my plowshare is back to a sword, my pruning hook is back to a spear, the dogs are big and bold. anyone cries "havoc" i am so fucking there.

Mon Oct 16, 02:23:36 PM EDT  
 elf blogged...

Good Evening DW !!!!

Great graphic !!

Well with the Eisenhower, USS Anzio other ships on their merry way to the Straits of Hormuz that graphic may portend more than we all wish.

Maybe Rove has bought Georgie boy a fiddle to play while they burn the world.

Mon Oct 16, 09:08:50 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Afternoon Dark Wraith,

And what fantastic new artwork!

I must say, it looks very good over the last post on The Gypsy's Caravan, pics of the swordsmith's art: Falling Hammer Productions, from my day at the Renaissance Faire.

I think the fix is in to just get enough Diebolds to keep power. And if Lieberman gets the hacked vote, we can count on him switching to the Dark Side.


Hey Father Tyme -
Apparently noone believes me, but rest assured that CT will be one of the last elections to be hacked. We have had the old safe mechanical machines since the late sixties, (the ones I learned to vote on). We are getting a few electronic machines this election, and they are not Diebold, and they do have reciepts.

However, if you want to vote on the mechanical machines, you can just wait for one to be free. Most of our elections are being run by those of the WWII generation, and those old biddies won't stand for any BS around the election.

I too wait for Rove's October surprise, but am cheered by each and every new republican scandal that is uncovered. They've taken to leaving off teh (R) when they write an article about Gross Old Pervert's malfeasance, but the locals know who they're voting against!

Tue Oct 17, 12:43:08 PM EDT  

       

Friday, October 13, 2006

Special Analysis:
Silencing Corporate Whistleblowers

On the afternoon of October 11, 2006, I received an e-mail message from an organization calling itself the California First Amendment Coalition. The message header was "Flash: First Amendment and Open Government News," surely something I'd be interested in reading. The body of the message was a re-print of the current lead article, Vol. 16, no. 16, on the Website of the organization. Clearly marked "COMMENTARY," the title of the article, written by Peter Scheer and dated October 5, 2006, is "FREE THE HEWLETT-PACKARD 5!"

It was upon reading the title and the summary that all kinds of alarms went off in my mind, this despite the references on the Website to reputable places like the UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism and downright pseudo-liberal people like Arianna Huffington (see, however, my personal assessment of Ms. Huffington in the article "Put a Cork in It, Arianna").

This California First Amendment Coalition group looks like such a bulwark of liberalism that the very header graphic on the Website reads: "California First Amendment Coalition: Protecting & Defending the Public's Right to Know."

So what's up with such a fine, upstanding protector and defender of the public's right to know calling for freeing the Hewlett Packard 5?

For those of you not into corporate skullduggery, the 'Hewlett Packard 5' refers to the corporate executives of Hewlett Packard (NYSE:HPQ) who went so far as to have private investigative types pretend they were other people so they could find out who had told journalists about some of the inside goings-on at HP while it was under the rule of the incompetent former Chairwoman Patricia Dunn and her toadies. Ms. Dunn and four others have been charged with conspiracy, wire fraud, identity theft, and illegal use of computer data (People of the State of Calif. v. Patricia Dunn, et al., Santa Clara County Superior Court in San Jose, 06-1027481). The criminal complaint names Ms. Dunn and her chief ethics director and senior legal counsel, Kevin Hunsaker, as well as three people who provided private investigation services that included, in the account at the Washington Post, "...the use of false pretenses to gain access to personal phone records of HP board members, journalists and their families..." This use of a systematic pattern of oral and written lies to get personal and in some cases private information is sometimes called "pretexting," a term charmingly bland in hiding the venality of the acts. According to that same article in the Washington Post, the HP cabal even "...devised an unsuccessful e-mail sting to attempt to trick a reporter into revealing her source." Bloomberg.com provides the following account of the extent of the corporate surveillance operation:
"At least six investigators in Massachusetts, Florida, Colorado and Georgia hired by Hewlett-Packard faked the identities of directors, employees and reporters to obtain their phone records... [P]retexting compromised over 24 different individuals' telephone, fax and cellular accounts... [d]uring 33 months of call monitoring..."
After all that, HP director George Keyworth resigned after admitting that it was he who had been the source of "some" of the leaks from the inner sanctum at the company. Both Ms. Dunn and former HP CEO Carleton "Carly" Fiorina (who is alleged to have been one of the targets of the pretexting) claim that Keyworth and fellow board member Tom Perkins 'plotted against them' because of the patriarchal culture pervasive at the executive level.

Despite what might be a hollow defense of corporate wrong-doers, the California First Amendment Coalition had my attention. A vigorous, well-sourced refutation of charges like those leveled against Dunn and her alleged accomplices would be worth reading, especially since the criminal complaint was filed by California Attorney General Bill Lockyer, a Democrat who happens to be running for California State Treasurer and has been rumored to have an interest in someday moving into the governor's mansion.

Criticism leveled at prosecutors for political timing is not novel to this case, of course. Down in Texas, former House Speaker Tom Delay, his attorney, and others have quite vocally made the charge that Democratic prosecutor Ron Earle is using his position in a political witch hunt against the former Republican powerhouse. If convicted on the most serious charge, that of money laundering, Texas state law specifies that Mr. Delay will spend the remainder of his life in prison. That gives him quite a bit of incentive to use just about any counter-attack, specious as it might be, in his defense. But such attacks on prosecutors' motives should not be roundly ignored, either. Only the naïve would believe that politically ambitious attorneys for local, state, and federal governments have not in the past used their position for their own advancement.

As such, the facts of the particular case at hand—to the extent those facts can be sorted out from the hail of charges, counter-charges, accusations, and public relations campaigns—must guide the outsider's assessment of the merits both of government claims and the representations of the defendant and his advocates in response. In any event, it can never become a standing or unspoken rule of law enforcement that important people are not to be charged with crimes during election seasons; neither, however, can it become a standing or unspoken rule that prosecutors' motives are off limits as points of vigorous defense.

Without following a speculative tangent about Attorney General Lockyer's true motives for prosecuting Dunn and her alleged co-conspirators, suffice it to note that the accused from Hewlett Packard opened a door on questions of great legal interest: how far can a corporation go in protecting its secrets, and where does the required 'due diligence' of a corporation end and the right of individual privacy take precedence? The California First Amendment Coalition wants to dismiss the second part of that question by holding the focus squarely on the matter of the government's duty not to interfere with journalists trying to get stories from insiders.

If readers just heard what sounded like a forensic grinding sound, that was a debate being shifted interdimensionally without benefit of a slipstream clutch. Note the subtlety: somehow, to protect journalists from the government, government must allow corporations to do whatever they deem necessary internally, thereby relieving the government of much of its need to go after journalists in the first place. Presumably, if companies can create a wall of silence around corporate operations by intimidating employees, journalists will have no one ever willing to speak out of turn. Problem solved: no whistleblowers, no stories in the media; no stories in the media, no First Amendment freedom of the press issues.

Before proceeding to summarily haul the California First Amendment Coalition over the coals, though, I must return to several matters of context in the particular case of Hewlett Packard. Patricia Dunn was no colossus of brilliance in corporate governance; neither, however, was Ms. Fiorina, the former CEO who came in on the wings of the appalling hand-over of Hewlett Packard to Compaq in a "merger" of miserably incompetent unequals. Ms. Fiorina was fired in 2005, perhaps in part as retribution by minority shareholders from the Packard family for her role in engineering the merger. Ms. Dunn's ascendance was on the executive body of Ms. Fiorina. As ABCNews.com reports, her self-aggrandizing style "...had turned HP into an armed camp," and the leaks from the boardroom started during her tumultuous tenure. Curiously, Ms. Fiorina's previous high-powered corporate gig at Lucent Technologies (NYSE:LU) ended just before federal enforcement power brought its fist down there. Ms. Fiorina, it should be noted in passing, was one of the targets of Ms. Dunn's private investigators.The jury may still be out on whether or not Ms. Dunn is largely the victim of mendacious forces aligned against her, but Ms. Fiorina's claims of victimhood—well stated in her just-released book, "Tough Choices: A Memoir"—are generally met in the corporate world with rolling eyes and barely suppressed grimaces.

However, setting aside the armchair assessment of who was more wretched than whom as head of HP, and especially setting aside Ms. Fiorina's efforts to tie her board-level struggles at HP to those of her successor, there is a human level that needs to be set forth with respect to the matter of charging Ms. Dunn at this particular time. She is suffering from a recurrence of ovarian cancer, having already been a survivor of breast cancer. As much as my professional judgment had from the outset of her ascendance to the chairmanship at Hewlett Packard been generally negative—but with no small touch of relief that, at the very least, she wasn't Carly Fiorina—she then and even now deserves grudging admiration for her sheer will to survive, rise, and flourish in the vicious, sexist, and altogether stylishly brutish world of high corporate power. Dragging a woman to court when she's probably going to suffer greatly and die relatively soon is distasteful to the point of disgusting. Occasions exist when Lady Justice needs to take off her blindfold to see upon whom she is about to wield her sword. Should the trial end in her conviction on one or more of the charges against her, I shall be one to call in the strongest of language for the utmost mercy in her sentencing. No one who is a regular reader of my articles and comments would accuse me of being other than a hard-ass, especially when it comes to meting out justice against the mean, the hateful, and the powerful; but beating the bloodied is repulsive. Readers may take exception to that position, but they shall do so at the risk of that hard-ass side of me coming out for a meal, one that would not exclude a tough look at Attorney General Lockyer.

Having made that point, and returning now to the article by the California First Amendment Coalition, my hope that this group would offer a spirited refutation of the charges against Ms. Dunn and her alleged accomplices was sorely and swiftly put to rest. The summary of the article says it all:
"Corporations must have power to police leaks internally so newspapers will remain free to publish leaks"
That phrase 'police leaks internally' is as worrisome as it is loaded with subtext. Without saying so explicitly, the author of the commentary, Mr. Sheer, is starting off with the assumption that corporations must have internal policing systems with duties beyond ensuring corporate actions are in compliance with the laws of the land. Indeed, Mr. Sheer spends no small amount of space in his commentary describing an internal enforcement system that protects the corporation and its officers and directors. That, in and of itself, is not outrageous at all, provided the internal defenses the corporation deploys are specifically, categorically, and uniformly to the end of ensuring the maximization of shareholder wealth within the bounds of that which is lawful action guided by sound business judgment. In my article, "Rationality, Incentives, and the Agency Dilemma," I explain that any person, be it an individual, the parties bound in contract, or those working for a corporation, have incentive to act in their own self-interest rather than that of the principal for whose interest they are supposed to be acting; the extent to which they will do so is mitigated only by both the monitoring of the actions and enforcement of the rules under which they are to work. So internal policing within a corporation is altogether reasonable, but not when the monitoring and enforcement are contrary to standing statutory and/or civil law, and not when the monitoring and enforcement activities are to the end of protecting the officers and directors personally.

Mr. Sheer in fact makes a valiant attempt to bind blanket protection of internal corporate policing practices to statutory law, itself:
"I start from the proposition that public corporations are allowed to have secrets and to take measures to protect them. A corporate board needn’t function as openly as a city council. Indeed, depending on the circumstances, the disclosure of corporate secrets can be a violation of federal securities laws."
Now we have the Securities Act of 1934 being brought to bear: regulatory and law enforcement authorities, and obviously then the laws that inform civil and criminal actions against transgressors, must allow a corporation broad latitude to internally police, including, according to Mr. Sheer, the very duty "to force its employees to submit to polygraph tests [as Apple Corp. did]," because of the dangers of insider trading.

Magnificent is the conflation. It is as if the author is claiming that due diligence in the form of vigorous investigation of suspected insider trading is somewhere on the same planet with having the 'director of ethics' and some Magnum PI wannabes pretend they're who they aren't to find out who's spilling the beans about boardroom discussions. The Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and other relevant Acts of Congress and the several states regulating secondary securities market activities and the actions of participants therein place affirmative burden on public corporations to comply not just in letter, but in spirit. In fact, the term "scheme" is used in regulatory language to convey the broad latitude the Securities and Exchange Commission and the state securities regulatory agencies have in considering what constitutes lawful versus unlawful activities, including those by the directors, officers, and other insiders of a public corporation. This, however, is not in any way related to the chairman of a public corporation authorizing and directing private investigators to go out and lie to get information about who is telling boardroom "secrets."

In fact, Ms. Dunn's conduct goes to the heart of the matter of that over-used but still profoundly important word "transparency": a board of directors, the executive officers of a corporation, and even legal counsel to the firm may see behind-closed-doors discussions as meriting all the privacy in the world; but the outside observer, especially a shareholder sensing inadequate transparency, could see matters very differently. For all the lip service modern corporations give to the pre-eminence of their shareholders, many of those corporations behave in ways that are truly appalling to those who have little or no voice in director-level decision making, as is evident from the outrageous compensation packages laid at the feet of executive officers whose performance at the helm would have gotten them fired were the relationship between compensation committees, decision-makers on the board, and the executive beneficiaries not so incestuously tight and non-transparent. By virtue of its egregious offenders, corporate America has taken off the table any presumption of a "right" to have "secrets" other than those directly having to do with proprietary technologies, in-process negotiations, and access to uncertified financial information.

The mere presumption or declaration that some boardroom or executive-level matter is a "secret" cannot take precedence over the public's right to know: it is that public that claims at least some degree of ownership if a corporation poses to benefit from "public corporation" status with respect to broad access to capital markets.

Here's the distillate from this corporate lawyer dream world being promoted by the California First Amendment Coalition.
Let corporations do their own 'internal policing' as they see fit because they can get the job done better. The Bill of Rights circumscribes government actions against citizens, not the actions of private entities like corporations. Sometimes, courts go so far as to take that constitutional stuff seriously when it comes to the government trying to deny rights enumerated in or constructed from the Constitution; therefore, it's best to remove the entire line of defense about "rights" someone might have.

Probable cause? Not needed. If we've heard a rumor about you, to the back room for a polygraph test you go. Just be glad we're more civilized than the government about getting the truth out of you.

Unreasonable search and seizure? Sure. We can do whatever we want because the corporate offices belong to us. Actually, if you work for us, you do, too, but we'll let you go home most nights.

Lie to get information? No problem. We're protecting those shareholders we love so much. Anyway, it's all about compliance with Sarbanes-Oxley (otherwise known as the Securities Lawyers' Revenue Enhancement Act).

Due process? Where's that written in our corporate by-laws?

Presumption of innocence? Like we'd ever make a mistake.

Freedom of speech? Not if you've ever been on our payroll.

Freedom of the press? Absolutely! Like anyone who's ever worked here is going to rat on us after we've made examples of a few troublemakers.
The California First Amendment Coalition deserves credit: they've done their best to construct a false choice between a specific constitutional right, freedom of the press, and a broad right of citizens not to have private corporations for which they work spy on them using means the courts would have to approve before the government could do the very same things.

It is, however, on its face nonsense; but it is also the troubling and persistent mentality of the corporate world that labor is just one more factor of production to be used, abused, and discarded as necessary without the interference of laws that might insist that people are citizens first, and the rights and liberties—all of the them—they carry as such citizens are not and cannot in any way be waived when they give a company the privilege of their productive effort.

At a congressional hearing last week, Hewlett Packard executives, former executives, and security experts testified about the snooping done by the company at Ms. Dunn's behest. The gruesome eight hours of testimony by Dunn and others left members of both parties at times incredulous and at other times outraged. Stalled efforts to bring corporate spying of this kind under control will likely be re-invigorated, particularly because the hearing made it very clear, in the words of privacy consultant Robert Douglas, "[T]he biggest buyers (of pilfered phone records) are attorneys, corporations, banks, finance agencies, car financiers — the business community."

(And, yes, these outraged congressmen are of the very same U.S. government that is engaged in a massive, wholesale, unlawful campaign of spying on U.S. citizens without any court oversight whatsoever, so the irony of their outrage is so deliciously palpable that it should have a gag warning attached to it.)

Corporations will forever presume that any effort by the government to circumscribe internal practices constitutes an unacceptable burden upon the right to conduct operations in the most efficient way possible to maximize shareholder wealth. Theirs will permanently be the position, expressed or implied, that they as the employers by nature have the right to grant and deny privileges as a consequent application of business judgment, and one such discretionary 'privilege' is employee privacy. Their occasional claims that the well-being of their employees is so crucial to success of the enterprise notwithstanding, the backdrop of corporate treatment of its workforce is instilled with the mentality that people are hired and retained as a favor to those so graced. Most employees see it that way, too: there exists no "right" to have the job, and from that presumption then logically flows the conclusion that virtually nothing about the job is infused of prior rights other than those clearly set forth in law, and only then in law vigorously, pervasively, and consistently enforced.

It is, then, the permanent duty of the government through legislation, regulatory oversight, and the courts to ensure that worker abuses by corporate America are held in check and those representing the interests of corporations are resolutely, swiftly, and severely punished when their wholly expected attitudes contrary to relevant law become expressed in action, as happened in the case of Hewlett Packard. It is, then, only when the government re-asserts itself as the unwavering guarantor of the rights of workers by virtue of their citizenship in a free country that corporations will have even the hint of incentive not to act as the officers and directors at Hewlett Packard did.

Unfortunately, that commitment by government first, foremost, and always to serve its citizens will first require that the United States government fully reconstitute its own understanding that the people of this country have the fundamental, inalienable right to be left alone.


The Dark Wraith has spoken.

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 My Pet Goat blogged...

What, no more habeas corporation?

Lame, I know, but it's been a long week.

Fri Oct 13, 04:25:58 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Yes, Mr. Goat: very long week, very lame pun.


Sadly, the Dark Wraith finds corporation humor worthy of laughter, anyway.

Fri Oct 13, 04:51:16 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

...it is also the troubling and persistent mentality of the corporate world that labor is just one more factor of production to be used, abused, and discarded as necessary without the interference of laws that might insist that people are citizens first, and the rights and liberties—all of the them—they carry as such citizens are not and cannot in any way be waived when they give a company the privilege of their productive effort.

Yeah, like the first amendment right to free speech.

I recently was bragging at work that the merchants at the renaissance faire were very cooperative about letting me take pictures, after I told them I have a blog...and my boss asked for the address. A cold finger of dread climbed up my spine as I recited it and he wrote it down - he's my Limbaugh loving big brother. I am acutely aware that several bloggers have been forced to give up their blogs by their employers, even tho' they blog only on their own time, and their blogs have nothing to do with their work.

Fri Oct 13, 04:52:21 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, SB Gypsy.

Should you have any problem whatsoever with your employer because of your blogging, I will see to it that he becomes famous on the Internet beyond his dreams...

...or perhaps nightmares.


The Dark Wraith knows how to do a sweet search engine baiting when the occasion merits.

Fri Oct 13, 05:00:31 PM EDT  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

Good Evening Dark Wraith:

One of the most interesting things about this whole thing for me has been that this was going on at Hewlitt-Packard. They used to pride themselves on being a pioneering visionary force in Silicon Valley. They had a well paid happy workforce which was the foundation of the loyalty they reaped. I think it's also telling that these shenanigans played out once the places that used to be filled by old school "build a killer product in your garage" guys were being filled with "rape the puppies first, then turn on the children, the boil and eat both" wall street types.

i've been patting myself on the back because i sold off all the stuff of theirs i had two years ago. it wasn't about the money, it was about who they were becoming.

Fri Oct 13, 10:46:07 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Minstrel Boy.

I made the mistake about four years ago of buying a Hewlett Packard notebook computer, relying as I did on the rock-solid reputation of the company and the fact that I still had an HP ink jet printer working after years of use and abuse.

That computer was the worst I ever owned. It was a nightmare, and HP pretended like it had no idea what I was talking about. It was only after I had spent hundreds of dollars trying to repair the irreparable that I found HP, itself, had a customer message board where hundreds of angry buyers of that model had been raging about exactly the problems I was having.

(The notebook would simply shut off without any warning whatsoever. And when I say 'shut off' I mean the thing would simply snap to total dead. It would do this constantly. In addition, a defective heat sink destroyed the hard drive, this addition of insult to injury happening after the warranty had just expired.)

I was simply stunned when I found out that the mighty Hewlett Packard had become such a disgrace of a company that it would not only knowingly make and continue to sell a bad product—actually a whole line of notebooks with the same fundamentally flawed architecture—but that it would engage in a customer service culture of pretending the problem didn't exist and taking customers' money to repair what couldn't be fixed long after HP knew the products were irreparably defective.

This comes under my "Never Again" heading, by the way. I am working now with a thoroughly underpowered old beast of a machine that I've managed to keep fairly fast; but it's a step down from what I would have had if that HP had not simply and finally become completely non-functional.

But at least what I have now doesn't turn off when I don't want it to.


The Dark Wraith wonders if anyone at Hewlett Packard gives a rat's backside about what happened to that once-proud leader of the industry.

Fri Oct 13, 11:27:55 PM EDT  
 Lily blogged...

Its more than just corporate censorship of personal expression, many HR people openly admit that they google potential applicants now, and places like MySpace let users search for accounts using your email.

So that picture of you trashed and passed out next to a keg might be found by would-be employers. Still- my choice.

The thing is, I understand an employer not wanting employees to surf blogs all day instead of contributing to precious production. But I also think we need to get away from the idea of this over-arching paternal supervision of the workplace boss. Some HR managers tell me that blogs become narcissitic confessionals, often with people writing things that will reflect badly on the company if read by clients.

Doesnt sound like they give their employees alot of credit for their ability to self determine.

Gosh, I hate The Man.

Sat Oct 14, 07:21:29 PM EDT  
 AJ blogged...

It is, then, the permanent duty of the government..

Yes, but have you ever tried to ask for help when you were rightously shafted by one of those coporate CEO's whose decision to reverse split their shares after hiring the best stock pushers money can buy?
The AG and the SEC are not really interested...

Sun Oct 15, 03:22:32 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, AJ.

As a consultant to public companies and shareholders, I lived in the shadow of a government agency willing to strike down the weak but never, ever willing to help.

The evil ruled and the foolish were destroyed over and over again.

I have no use for the Securities and Exchange Commission, and I have even less use for Sarbanes-Oxley, which is the legislature's miserable attempt to show, once again, that it cares, when the real issue is that laws already on the books are unenforced.

It is the way of this government to replace diligence with more and more draconian laws that place the weak at greater and greater disadvantage against the strong.

That is the way of the world until we elect legislators who will force the regulatory agencies to direct the iron fist of government power at the head of the beast rather than upon the field of its hapless lessers.

And by the way, the only reason I am survived to fight another day and another battle is that I became not quite as stupid as those I watched—shareholders, employees, and some small corporations alike—wrecked. Even at that, I am fortunate to be alive, and that is no thanks to a government of the people, by the people, and ostensibly for the people.

One day, I shall strike with my writing at the heart of that monster I left behind, but I shall do that only when I become so widely read that what I say cannot be dismissed by sheer inconsequence. Absent a time when what I say would be more meaningful to the process of change, I have asked those who knew me in that time to tell some of the stories to whomever would listen.

Yes, AJ, I know whereof you speak.

I know it well.


The Dark Wraith needs to let the core of the issue go for now, though.

Sun Oct 15, 04:12:07 PM EDT  
 AJ blogged...

"That is the way of the world until we elect legislators.."

Thank you for your response O Dark One.
But with all due respect to your Dark Wrathfulness, ....Bullshit.

You know as well as I, that the powers that get elected become curiously
taxed on other "important" issues until they become totally impotent by choice , blackmail or derision. THAT is the way of the world today. Just look at our esteemed Congress for further proof in the matter.

It seems to me that exemplifying the most proven ways of our best ABC agencies in that having one or two said CEO/managers mysteriously disappear might begin to have an impact as they obviously know no other language.

Tue Oct 17, 11:50:02 AM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Afternoon Dark Wraith

The Dark Wraith wonders if anyone at Hewlett Packard gives a rat's backside about what happened to that once-proud leader of the industry.

I think they care just about as much as the top brass at P&WA, Hamilton Sunstrand, 3M, GE, Ford, GM and the rest, which is "not so much".

The face of American industry has changed since we've decided to jump into globalization(expressly to break labor's remaining power), and the change is all engineered to prove that unionized labor is ineffectual, lazy, and spoiled. I know at the co where hubby works, they seem to go out of their way to make it impossible to achieve their numbers, and then anyone who doesn't gets shown the door. Keeps the middle management young and powerless as well. They also train these fresh out of college manager- trainees to ignore any pearls of wisdom given by the rank and file(who actually know how to do the jobs).

I've been saying for years - you couldn't ruin a company faster unless you really wanted to auger-it-into-the-ground.

I will see to it that he becomes famous on the Internet beyond his dreams...


heh heh - thanks for the support, but if he tried it, I'd quit, and then he'd have to find a bookeeper that he could trust... AND do my job all the while he was training someone as well. Not very likely, tho sometimes, when he's carefully explaining to my son(his nephew, who also works here) how waterboarding is not torture, I'm tempted to just walk out.

Tue Oct 17, 01:07:52 PM EDT  

       

Thursday, October 12, 2006

Special Graphic Post:
A Cry to the Base

A Cry to the Base



Use as you wish with attribute.

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 Wild Clover blogged...

Ohhh, a demon with a cod piece...where could I have seen him before? Or is he Satan? Or is he only Satan to ferriners?

Thu Oct 12, 11:20:07 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Wild Clover.

The cod piece was necessary; in the President's case, however, it was entirely decorative... and overstated.


The Dark Wraith believes the codpiece should fit the flyboy.

Thu Oct 12, 11:41:41 PM EDT  
 oldwhitelady blogged...

Good morning, Dark Wraith.

Wow! What fun:) That's a great graphic!

Fri Oct 13, 05:29:44 AM EDT  

       

Tuesday, October 10, 2006

Special Analysis:
Enter the Dragons

North Korean nuclear testThe picture at left is a screen capture from a Korea Central News Agency broadcast of North Korea's first test of a nuclear weapon, conducted on Monday morning, October 9, 2006, local Korean time. The nuclear device is reported to have been detonated in an abandoned coal mine in the North Hamgyong province. The picture allegedly displaying the explosion appears to show the typical ground-level uplift characteristic of a massive underground ordnance detonation.

Surprisingly, however, despite multiple reports of seismic detectors recording the event, estimates of the yield of the device vary strikingly, with The Independent reporting a 15 kiloton yield—approximately on the order of the atomic bomb used by the United States on the Japanese city of Hiroshima in 1945—while other news sources, including the Los Angeles Times, are reporting that at least some U.S. officials claim the yield was "less than one kiloton." The Los Angeles Times expands on this U.S. claim by noting that the nuke might have "...failed to achieve its full explosive potential." At less than a kiloton, it is actually within the realm of possibility that conventional explosives were used to simulate a nuclear blast.

A device yielding 15 kilotons is well appreciated for its ability to lay waste to an entire city, so a nuclear weapons capability even of such modest power by modern standards is nonetheless a clear indication that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea has, indeed, become a full-fledged nuclear state capable of inflicting extraordinary damage on a military target.

If, however, the explosion was less than a kiloton, a number of possible scenarios emerge. First, it is possible that U.S. officials are deliberately underreporting the yield in an effort to calm domestic and international fears about and reaction to the test. On the other hand, if the device was a nuke and didn't achieve full potential, it would indicate that the North Koreans have not yet perfected the high technology of the triggering and aiming mechanisms that bring the fissile material inside the device into the compaction state required to create the critical mass that causes the material to become a fuel-exhausting, destructive nuclear explosion.

Even if the North Korean nuclear test came off without a hitch, few would dispute the objective evidence that Pyongyang is months if not years from becoming a genuine regional threat. Although it could right now deliver a nuke (if it really has any) by traditional aircraft, a bomber—even if it were to appear as a civilian aircraft—coming from North Korea would be confronted and turned back or shot down were it to come anywhere near a target in South Korea, Japan, or the United States. And as far as using ballistic missiles, although the North Koreans have intermediate-range missiles they have tested successfully, their sole test of an intercontinental ballistic missile, the Taepodong II—possibly a variation on the Iranian Shahab 3 or a straight upgrade from Nodong and Scud technology used in the Taepodong I—was a failure, having exploded either unintentionally or by ground directive about 40 seconds into its maiden test flight.

But even if North Korea were to suddenly have long-range ballistic delivery vehicles in its arsenal, the nation's nuclear research and development community must still make it through a long, expensive, and technologically challenging set of hurdles with miniaturizing the nukes so they can be fitted in warheads atop missiles. Beyond the miniaturization still await the complications of remote arming, accurate vehicle targeting, and hardening to countermeasures ranging from missile command signal jamming on through to mid-air interception by the latest generation of anti-ballistic missiles the United States is deploying. (Whether or not the U.S. ABMs are effective is another matter entirely, but their existence serves as a factor in the attack calculus of what a missile would need in order to survive to target.)

Reports vary somewhat on the size of the North Korean nuclear arsenal: a lower bound might be six to eight, and an upper bound might be twelve; but the size and the very existence of the North Korean arsenal is at this point irrelevant to the important events that will occur in the region over the coming several years. Japan is more than capable of going nuclear in a matter of months, and its legendary industrial expertise combined with its already-existing rocketry program ensures that, long before North Korea can become a regional menace, Japan could become a significant threat to the government of Kim Jong Il in North Korea.

Mainland China, once the principal benefactor of Pyongyang and its chief protector against the worst of international sanctions that would otherwise have already been imposed on the DPRK, is now not only making starkly harsh, public statements about North Korea, but is also engaging in an almost disturbingly warm dialogue with Japan, this latter turn at least possibly in part the result of the stepping down of Japan's long-time prime minister, Junichiro Koizumi, who had a bad habit of repeatedly souring Chinese-Japanese relations, particularly with his official visits to shrines honoring the Japanese Imperial Army troops of World War II, whom the Chinese to this day consider nothing less than the very worst of all possible war criminals. Even though Koizumi's successor, Shinzo Abe, is a protégé of the former prime minister, and even though Abe openly supports a more robust Japanese military posture, he has managed (with some help from North Korea's petulance) to get started on the right foot with the leadership in Beijing, with the two sides forging an alliance that could conceivably result in China allowing Japan to play the role of hitman-in-waiting to remind North Korea that its ambitions for regional influence will not go unchecked.

North Korea's alleged nuclear test, in and of itself, is not nearly as important as a military achievement for Pyongyang as it is as a signal event in the shifting military dynamics and diplomcatic relationships matrix on the western side of the Pacific Rim. Although the United States can be a force in economic retribution against North Korea, its ability to impose a swift military solution is virtually non-existent, although the possibility always exists, given the current leadership in Washington, that the Pentagon might be ordered to try a military option. Absent a complete loss of connection to proper assessment of probable outcomes, the U.S. will not use military force either to destroy North Korea's nuclear facilities or to kill its leader. This is due only in part to the fact that American military forces are already stretched to their limit in the twin theatres of Afghanistan and Iraq. North Korea does not need to have or use nuclear weapons to be extraordinarily dangerous: not only does it have a huge standing army, but it also has tens of thousands of short-range rocket launchers that could within a matter of minutes begin what would be an almost incalculably destructive hail of hundreds of thousands of rockets onto South Korea. Within a day, such a siege would do at least as much damage as a concerted air force bombardment campaign; and given the dispersal of the launchers, it would be impossible to neutralize more than a fraction of the launchers before the collective effect of so many rockets had exacted a crippling toll on the economic vitality and physical infrastructure of the South.

That the United States does not have a viable military option is good news to the extent that, first, such an approach to dealing with Pyongyang would likely be counterproductive in the extreme and, second, such an effort would press the U.S. military to its breaking point. On the downside, though, the fact that the United States continues to decline North Korean demands for bilateral talks further circumscribes the range of options in which the United States could be the defining force in taming the ambitions of North Korea's leader.

This, then, leaves South Korea, Japan, and China at least to some extent in the position of finding their own accommodation for each other in their common desire to control Pyongyang. It means a re-militarized Japan, quite possibly to become a nuclear state; it means an already fully militarized South Korea very likely to follow suit and go nuclear within a matter of less than a decade; and it means these two emergent, economically strong Asian nations becoming allied with the 800-pound gorilla of the region, China, which has every incentive to present itself as the far closer, economically growing, and very reliable alternative to Washington, mired as it now is and will be for years to come in wars of its own making on the other side of the world.

In short, the 21st Century will just keep getting more interesting, whether or not the United States is capable of maintaining even the façade of relevance to it.


The Dark Wraith will have more good news as the new century proceeds.

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 Anonymous blogged...

The Dark Wraith will have more good news as the new century proceeds.

Tue Oct 10, 04:27:14 AM EDT  
 Moody Blue blogged...

In short, the 21st Century will just keep getting more interesting, whether or not the United States is...

...of ANY relevance to it?

Tue Oct 10, 04:44:49 AM EDT  
 BlondeSense Liz blogged...

It would have been so easy to diplomatically deal with N. Korea. They can't produce their own food or energy. They could have said, "Quit the nukes or we'll quit the food." But then again, the US would lose its reason to invade Iran.

So what's the story? Is the US getting ready to invade Iran before the elections or after?

Anymore sex scandals in the news?

Tue Oct 10, 08:57:22 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, Liz.

As far as new sex scandals go, the Republicans are having quite a lot of fun with the one they've got on their hands right now. It could get worse, though: the conspiracy theory crowd has some ideas on directions it could take based upon a speculative sequence of events that led up to the current mess. I set forth the outline of this sequence in a comment to a post over at Pam's House blend. The most damning part, if this is in any way close to how things really went down, is the fact that the pages who did the self-styled sting on Foley tried to get federal law enforcement to listen to their story months ago after their attempts to communicate quietly up and down the ranks of the Republicans in Congress (and maybe even the White House) failed to earn them even a cursory response.

Is how I describe it how it really all started to unravel for Foley? I surely don't know; but I do know that, when this story started breaking and some of the apologists were explaining the whole thing away as a "prank" by a group of pages, that self-styled little sting those pages did on Foley was what they were referring to. The next part I'm not at all knowledgeable about is the speculation that the apologists using that line of defense were told in no uncertain terms to shut their pie holes because of where that might lead concerning who knew what when.

And Iran is on the back burner trying to find running room to the goal line; but don't bet that Iran was Target Number 1 for that aircraft carrier battle group that's heading toward the Middle East. The smart money was that Iran wasn't first on the hit parade for a contingency plan, but was instead part of a somewhat larger effort that was in the mix of ideas.

Note, by the way, that I used the word 'ideas' above, and that's because there was no way any new military engagement would be a done deal at this point in time. Right now, everything is too volatile in places too far apart on the globe, and there are a whole lot of military folks who have made no bones about the fact that we simply cannot sustain any further "forward leaning" (to use a Dick Cheney euphemism) foreign policy moves.

The best of our bad outcomes in Iraq is now to oversee a quasi-controlled disintegration of the nation-state, and even that doesn't have a whole lot of sunshine coming out of its rather ugly butt. In Afghanistan, we've already started the propaganda campaign to make it look like we're acknowledging that the Aghan "people" want some political role rehabilitated for the Taliban, a claim that is sheer hogwash on stilts but works to our advantage because we might possibly then be able to cobble together of "unity" government that includes Talibani officials and thereby have a decent excuse to get NATO troops out because we've established a "lasting peace through political settlement."

Bull.

But it works if it's played right. However, count on the Bush Administration to screw up even the simple task of directing a train wreck to the right track.


That's enough of my blather for the morning.


The Dark Wraith needs to get to class to raise Hell about economics principles.

Tue Oct 10, 09:35:00 AM EDT  
 Lily blogged...

Of concern to me is that we often talk about our ability to "shoot down" aircraft should the inevitable need arise, and yet we have demonstrated by allowing inexperienced pilots to hit our very own Pentagon that we might not find comfort in this reassurance.

I understand that one thing this administration actually did do in response to 9/11 was to upgrade the failed NORAD- but still- it sent a message to the world that the supposed greatest military superpower in the world can be penetrated and in fact-pithed- in its cranial nerve. Setting aside the questions and what we get for our budget- what do you think the perception is out there about our ability to shoot down threats? Our arrogance has not served us well because we leave vulnerabilities wide open... for anyone.

Further, you mention a motive to minimize the strength. I'm surprised on one hand that they are not hyping the thread toward yet another wargasm...but I think in this case acknowledging the potential seriousness here only serves to highlight Bush's diplomatic failures.

Tue Oct 10, 12:31:54 PM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

The picture allegedly displaying the explosion appears to show the typical ground-level uplift characteristic of a massive underground ordnance detonation.

Did you get that from one of those new defloration/deforestation links on your message board?

Tue Oct 10, 01:41:54 PM EDT  
 Lily blogged...

OH? A deforestation link you say?

That would sure help me because I've run out of trees to watch getting bulldozed outside of my window.

On a positive note, the mcmansion that I can reach out and touch from my window helps me hang laundry "West Side Story" style.....

Tue Oct 10, 06:46:49 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Mr. Goat.

Getting a picture from one of those nasty spambot sites would have been a piece of cake compared to getting a screen capture of that detonation. The Korea Central News Agency isn't exactly a highly distributed news service, considering it's little more than a propaganda organ. Unlike Xinhua or Tehran Times, though, it seems to have not a hint of subtext and subtle nuance to send messages to the astute among its viewers. I could be wrong about that, though; my understanding of Korean culture is more limited than I thought now that I've begun to talk at length and in depth with some Koreans.

What bothers me from the emerging picture I have is that the Bush Administration in particular seems to have a constructionist vision of nation-states that is profoundly clashing with how Koreans in general see their situation with regard to the schism between the North and the South. The bad part is that the South Koreans had been pulling away from the United States over the course of this Administration, but Kim Jong Il's bold move seems to have really frightened the South Koreans. The interesting part will be whether, as some analysts believe, this will draw Seoul back toward the U.S. or, as I suspect, it will be the impetus for a warming of relations between the South Koreans and the Mainland Chinese.

Oh, wait a minute.

Ah.



The Dark Wraith will let it go because, otherwise, he'll blow a gasket about what happens when you put a bunch of bumbling, stupid neo-cons into the driver's seat in Washington when the rest of the world is full of much brighter players.

Tue Oct 10, 07:17:02 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Lily.

I had the occasion some time back to comment to a just-retired Air Force pilot on the state of continental air interdiction/intercept readiness.

The fellow nearly ate my backside off. You want to talk about someone with a really sore attitude. I mentioned the fact that we had recently lost in international air combat games, and my Lord, that man went off. You should have heard the litany: it boiled down to an air corps culture that, in his judgment, had "lost its edge" because of a failure from the top down to articulate the essential nature of the mentality. Everything is the machine; everything is the technology; everything is the gee-whiz, we've got the best, most modern, most expensive.

That was his opinion.

I'll tell you, though, that bitching about the brass having its collective head up its butt is as old as military life, itself. That having been said, this guy saw himself as the residue of some old guard that saw the whole place burning down because of ideological wars that had always been there but had never become so completely one-sided that the mission was actually being defined by thought rather than action.

That's about the best I can do at explaining his bitterness.

In a way, Lily, this is an example of why you will see me from time to time describe myself as "conservative": I honestly believe that there have been better ways, older ways--ways that admittedly had deep, disturbing flaws, especially in the way access to the facilities of power were allocated and systematically denied. But when any "new era" dawns, I am highly suspicious of what is being eliminated that made things really effective.

We had one helluva fine domination in air power at one time. Now, our air force spends its time bombing the Hell out of targets that, for the most part, can't fight back. Yes, aircraft in Iraq have to deal with surface-to-air missiles, but you tell me that's even in the same universe as what a United States Air Force pilot would have faced in the Korean War with a swarm of little MiGs pouring all over his fighter or as what a Vietnam War pilot would have faced on a run seeing dozens of "white telephone polls" racing up from below.

Intercept readiness? It scares the Hell out of me.

But at least I can be reasonably assured that we or the South Koreans would be more than capable of shooting down a lumbering North Korean bomber trundling along trying to make it to a desirable bombing target in the South.

We'd be able to do that.

Could we intercept a missile? If it's nothing but a slap-together upgrade with Nodong and Scud C parts, yes, our anti-missile batteries could probably deal with it. Make it a Shahab 4, and I would say, I have no idea.

This brand-spanking new ABM system the U.S. has? After one stinking success at intercepting an in-flight target--in a test that, like all such tests, was rigged at least to some extent to up the odds of successful interception--the Pentagon is pushing countries to deploy the dogs.

Good Heavens.

I say we go back to the drawing board with this mentality:
1) We can do this: build an interceptor that takes out incoming ICBMs and, in later versions, intermediates;
2) yes, we can: we committed ourselves to hitting something the size of a grain of sand at a thousand miles with the lunar program of the 1960s, and we did it... over and over again;
3) defense contractors: you can try, but you're not any better than the Japanese, the Europeans, and a whole bunch of other countries with ambitious defense industries and scads of brilliant scientists and technologists. Whoever gets the job done first and right gets rich; whoever doesn't needs to stop knocking on our door to sell us other crap until they figure out how to make stuff that actually works.
4) Once we get the job done, we deploy the technology not just here, but everywhere that nations agree is a state that is ready to be protected. That means the UN gets involved in certifying that nations qualify to come under the umbrella. That means it's not longer "our" technology, but that of a world that needs to no longer be afraid of its neighbors... or of us.

In other words, we are no less of a threat to the peace than many other states, although there are some states that constitute such messes of internal and external menace that they need to get themselves put together in such a way that the rest of the world doesn't think they should remain vulnerable.

Now, I'm not stupid enough to be blind to the flaws in this plan, and I would be very swift to point out that this is most decidely not a variation on Reagan's "Star Wars" shield concept. I am, however, fully open to honest bitching at me for the problems such a global, collective missile defense would entail; but I would not, without some amazing, drop dead proof, be open to the idea that a highly reliable missile defense system simply cannot be built and then improved, refined, and upgraded as technological advancements and potential counter-measure threats became evident. It's not in my nature to believe that "some things are just impossible" when the collective will, resources, and commitment are brought to bear.

It's just a matter of where priorities lie. Right now, we have a nation to repair: the poverty rate is rising; wages have been stagnant for years; the Constitution is under assault as it has never been in our history; our water and land are polluted by frightful chemicals; our children are being taught to be ignorant; our religious expression has a hateful, vicious, politically active wing; our people are hurting so much that some are lashing out and killing kids in their schools; our leaders are torturing (torturing, for God's sake!) people; and we are in debt up to our eyeballs to the Communist Chinese.

Yeah, the country is a mess, and the last thing we need is one more priority.

Unless, of course, we are the kind of people who become their best when the pressure is at its absolute worst.


The Dark Wraith will leave that assessment to the readers.

Tue Oct 10, 08:11:40 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, good readers.

As a side note, I've just posted a poll over at Big Brass Blog: I'm looking for what people think right now about the outcomes of the national elections on November 7.

If you're of a mind to share your opinion on the matter, by all means, go over and vote.


The Dark Wraith obviously encourages people to vote in the real poll on Election Day, also.

Tue Oct 10, 08:51:51 PM EDT  
 Eric A Hopp blogged...

Dark Wraith: You're just the bearer of all sorts of insanely bad news here.

One item you really didn't touch upon was the possibility of South Korea going nuclear. We know that South Korea has declared it will not "manufacture, possess, store, deploy, or use nuclear weapons." And it is a pretty safe bet that South Korea is also under the American nuclear umbrella, just as Japan has been. South Korea also has the technical capability to produce nuclear weapons in a shor time, perhaps a couple of years or so. If North Korea perfects both its missile technology and its nuclear warheads, will the South Koreans believe that the U.S. will continue to support its nuclear umbrella over South Korea--especially if the North Korean missiles will have the capability to hit U.S. target in Alaska? Even worst, what is going to happen when the Korean peninsula suddenly goes "hot" in the next two years with a shooting war starting up on the DMZ, and the North Koreans decide to use their nukes?

Another factor to consider is Iran. North Korea's "successful" nuclear test, and the Bush administration's failure to stop this test, has certainly reinforced Iranian nuclear ambitions. As you've said, the Iranians are certainly Target Number 1 for that aircraft carrier battle group heading for the Middle East. The Iranians know this and they know that one way they can protect their country from a Neocon-Imperialist Bush White House is if they have a nuclear bomb. If the North Koreans were able to build a bomb under the increasing economic pressure and diplomatic pressure of the U.S. and the world, then the Iranians are certainly going to give their best shot at building the bomb.

Tue Oct 10, 11:02:15 PM EDT  
 Eric A Hopp blogged...

Even if the Iranians are about ten years away from building the bomb....

Tue Oct 10, 11:02:48 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Eric, and thank you for offering commentary on this article.

My assessment in the article that "...an already fully militarized South Korea [will] go nuclear within a matter of less than a decade" was most decidely on the conservative side. My understanding is that Seoul has already made a considerable amount of headway in preparing for a nuclear option; and despite some analysts' expectation that the North Korean nuclear test will drive South Korea back toward the United States as its protector, I just don't see that as being the most likely outcome, at least in the long term. South Korea is certainly not going to openly repudiate the U.S. at any point, but neither is South Korea the kind of nation that wishes to remain forever dependent upon our good will. I have many Asian friends who see our policy toward Taiwan as a cautionary tale about the fickleness of U.S. friendship and support. Several of my more vocal Chinese friends also put Hong Kong into the mix, perhaps inappropriately seeing a progressive policy in the West of washing our hands of whomever the Chinese want to swallow whole.

I'm not sure I understand whether these kinds of claims of sentiment are just reactionary rhetoric and how much they are genuine feelings that independent strength is preferable to reliance upon the United States and Europe, but I do see the 21st Century being a time in which the polarization of Asia between countries within and outside the Chinese sphere of influence becomes sharper; and I most definitely see the U.S. of financial necessity withdrawing from its late-20th Century role as guarantor of status quo.

What worries me is the regime that will replace it. A re-militarized Japan has distinct advantages, and we as Americans could benefit greatly from that. Moreover, Japan will have a hard time resisting the temptation of a sustained period of economic stimulus that the addition of a strong military component to its industrial engine would provide.

However, given that I am a man of the 20th Century, one who came of age in the presence of those whose lives were defined by the two World Wars, I shall always have in the back of my mind--despite all the intellectual rationalizations to the contrary--a small voice telling me that a mighty military for Japan, one complete with a nuclear arsenal, is the stuff of a 20th Century man's nightmares.

As wrong as it is to think that way, it plays in the back of my mind.

And if I understand Chinese sentiments on the matter, it's even more of a concern for them.

Burying the past is a good idea, and I understand that. But, Eric, I'll tell you this: it's not such a good idea to bury something that's not quite dead because, when it gets back out of its grave, it's going to be quite a scary thing to behold.


The Dark Wraith will let that particular matter pass, now.

Wed Oct 11, 12:20:37 AM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

Yeah, the country is a mess, and the last thing we need is one more priority.

The next neocon wet dream New Bush Space Policy Unveiled, Stresses U.S. Freedom of Action

Wed Oct 11, 01:38:11 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

And I smell a neo-con fantasy of militarizing space, Mr. Goat.

That's what I smell.


The Dark Wraith is unaware of any tendency on the part of neo-cons to do anything for the sake of scientific inquiry.

Wed Oct 11, 01:50:36 AM EDT  
 Moody Blue blogged...

Quoth the Dark Wraith: All this talk about the diplomatic malfeasance of the Republicans isn't half as much fun as talking about Republican perverts.

Okay, now that’s kind of funny. I suppose that most people are more interested in sex than world diplomacy. It is also a bit enjoyable to watch some of them try to wriggle out of the hypocrite trap they’ve caught themselves in. And it’s always extra entertaining that once their long time wrongs are found out about that they are suddenly sorry. Yeah, sorry about being caught, that’s all. It’s NOT about anything other than the blatant hypocrisy of one who set himself out as a protector of minors from internet predators when he is himself doing exactly that, and those who knew and covered it up or let it slide.

---

Wraith, you comments here are as wise and educational as they are alarming for me.

As far as I am concerned, nuclear weapons are weapons of mass destruction. How much safer the world would be if countries stood down from the very creation of such horror. They would be banned around the globe, IF there was any semblance of a truly civilized world. And how much better off countries would be if the money spent in developing such weapons, and the methods to hope to deter them, was actually spent for the benefit of humanity.

The possibility of exterminating a goodly portion of our species and polluting the planet for generations to come with radioactive fallout is a wholly frightening prospect.

From probably the last greatly respected Republican:

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron. ~Dwight D. Eisenhower, speech, American Society of Newspaper Editors, 16 April 1953

How lovely it would be for a child in the future to ask his mother, “Mommy? What were nuclear weapons?” That’s not going to happen in what’s left of my lifetime. I would wish better for the next generations; but in my heart, I truly fear for them.

Will... the threat of common extermination continue?... Must children receive the arms race from us as a necessary inheritance? ~Pope John Paul II, speech at the UN, 1979

Quoting the Darth Wraith: It's just a matter of where priorities lie.”

Wed Oct 11, 05:04:18 AM EDT  
 Moody Blue blogged...

sheesh...

...your comments

(Oy.)

Wed Oct 11, 06:44:43 PM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

How much safer the world would be if countries stood down from the very creation of such horror.

Conceivably, but it might lead to proliferations of horrific, but not quite as lethal, weapons.

Unfortunately while it takes at least two to make peace, it only takes one to make war.

- oddjob


PS: I don't doubt the idea of a militarized Japan bothers the Chinese a lot more than it bothers us. Who has probably fought more brutal wars with the Japanese than any other?

I also expect it would bother the Koreans (of both sides) a lot. Korea is the Orient's Poland.........

Thu Oct 12, 12:07:51 AM EDT  
 Lily blogged...

Dark Wraith- just wanted to pop back over to let you know your comments were appreciated. I was not going to "go there" but since you did:

"And I smell a neo-con fantasy of militarizing space, Mr. Goat." Yup. After they wrestle it from Google.

I don't know about a UN model, I wonder how the dynamics will shift as we see our pet "Outsource Job Fair Attendees" nouveau-riche economies grow...the (self interested) preservation of our market appetite wane, more industry competing for resources...where does that leave a floundering US? Especially if the apocalyptic predictions have legs? Begging to join the EU???? I wonder when the people who own our asses now bring THEIR pressure to bear what will happen. We might have our margin call in the form of Taiwan. We couldn't even address the currency manipulation. Superpower indeed.

If by a retro-conservative you mean nostalgia about a time when Americans wanted to own their infrastructure...and tie their economy to a geography-I'm with you.But the nation has been replaced by the boundless Corp.beholden not to a citizenry but to shareholders.
I think we will go the way of the Romans. Soon. I officially coin the term: consumajunkie bonds.

Remind me not to read Dark Wraith when trying to sleep.

Thu Oct 12, 12:22:13 AM EDT  
 trailertrash blogged...

Quoth the Dark Wraith
In about six years, when the U.S. economy has slid to Third World status and someone tries to explain how the Bush Administration's fiscal recklessness caused it to happen, watch the Republicans scream bloody murder.


That's for sure. They'll still be blaming Clinton!

Thu Oct 12, 01:43:07 AM EDT  
 The Fat Lady Sings blogged...

You are not wrong to question the possible intents of a nuclear Japan. I’ve lived there – and let me tell you – the Japanese look upon the world in much the same way they did nearly a century ago. It’s endemic to their culture. For the past 50 years they have been content to dominate the world economically. Don’t kid yourself that those captains of industry over there did not see themselves as Shoguns – with workers their Samurai. That’s perhaps a tad simplistic – but it’s true nonetheless. As for Japan’s relationship (if any) with either China or Korea – the hatreds blocking that are ancient and deeply held. The Japanese look upon Korea and Koreans especially as being naturally inferior (as are we all). Korea was where Japan went to collect slaves a few centuries back. As for China – the rivalry has existed for millennia. Each claims the other’s culture arose from their own seed. So they may cooperate when the situation warrants – but don’t count on any lasting friendships to develop.

Japan is the wild card when it comes to North Korea. They raised holy hell over the abortive missile tests. I’ve not heard the same levels of hysteria coming out over the nuke – and frankly – that worries me. Used to be the Japanese would consult with the United States before doing anything rash. But Bush is universally disliked over there – and the antipathy extends to his father who lost face when he passed out over a state dinner. Loss of status always extends to the family – and even though Japan’s Prime Minister likes cowboys and has an Elvis obsession – Bush isn’t liked by the general populace. And Koizumi isn’t about to pull a Blair any time soon. No – it’s the Japanese to watch in all of this. They may just decide its time to once again declare their hegemony. If that happens – oh, baby! Kim Jon Il will have a lot more to worry about than Bush. And so will we.

Thu Oct 12, 02:22:21 AM EDT  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

Good Morning Dark Wraith: Fat Lady Sings is pretty spot on with her analysis of Japan. They are a very different culture. I got to Japan after having been most every where else in Asia, and since my traveling was done in the late 60's and early 70's memories in those regions were still fresh for the Japanese occupation. Nobody liked them or trusted them. We have done so at our own peril. I used to tell people that Japanese were fine people, but you needed to keep them apart from each other. If they are in a group of more than seven, in about half an hour the talk turns to world domination. They can't help themselves, I think it's a verb construction thing built into their language.

After doing a tour of Japan with Michel LeGrande a trumpet playing friend and I were regaling a couple of Keno runners with stories of our travels. The trumpet man was going on and on about the "wonders of the east" so I led him to the subject of Kobe beef. He went into great guidebook detail about the genetic selection, pampering of the cattle and things they do to ensure fork tender steaks. I let him ramble and then interjected "Yes, and when the time comes for slaughter, they take them down to the Kabuki theatre and bore them to death."

Thu Oct 12, 11:02:21 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Haw-haw-haw, hee-hee-hee.

Heee-hee.

A-hem.


The Dark Wraith strives to maintain objective appreciation of slow theatre.

Thu Oct 12, 11:29:16 AM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Afternoon, Dark Wraith


The UN is a toothless old hag. I like your idea of making a deterrant, and then sharing it around the world, but we won't do it, and someone would hack it.

The only alternative I can think of is to get enough of us living out in the asteroid belt that at least the human race - life even - would be preserved if the power mongers blow up this world. They are and have been doing everything they can to prevent that, tho'.

Thu Oct 12, 01:43:03 PM EDT  
 blackdog blogged...

The quality of the comment on this site is truly amazing. I am in your debt. My brother lived in Japan for a few years back in the 70's and I got to meet many of his friends when they came here. I too am a little leary of seeing them remilitarize, but I don't see how now with all of the screwups the neo-cons have made that they will not. The nukular umbrella offered by the usa is not enough, and can you imagine the sheer quality of any Japanese military machine? I bet they could become formidible in two years. And with Abe as PM, with the N Korean debacle, well I might just go get another beer and think about something else.

Regards.

Thu Oct 12, 04:17:38 PM EDT  

       

Saturday, October 07, 2006

Special Graphic Post:
Nightfall of the Vanquished

Nightfall of the Vanquished



This graphic may be reposted with attribute.



The Dark Wraith sees a very scary Hallowe'en ahead for the Grand Old Party.

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 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

good afternoon Dark Wraith:

posting today from the California/Mexico border...wonderful graphic indeed, I will be downloading it when I get back home I don't know however, how it will play out. I am gaining a new appreciation for how dead and feeble the democrats can really be. Maybe it's time for us to start playing whig music for them. If they are handed stuff like the NIE, the Woodward book, nearly 30 deaths in Iraq last week, the economy fluttering like a butterfly on meth fumes, and the Foley mess as a cherry on top, it still doesn't look like they will do much gaining. It reminds me of a kid who is given a room full of presents on his birthday and breaks into tears because he can't decide which one to open first....

The last time I saw Jim Pederson (senatorial candidate running against John Kyl) I told him "for me this election is about Johnny Gomez." He looked at me funny and I told him that Johnny Gomez was a 23 year old army seargeant from my town in Arizona. Killed in action in Mosul on Monday. I'm tired of burying kids I know. I'd rather play electric guitars at goat BBQ's than harp at their funerals.

Sat Oct 07, 03:43:52 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, Minstrel Boy.

And the latest is that the Republicans in the House of Representatives are fighting back, on Friday making a very public spectacle aimed at Nancy Pelosi, demanding to know what she knew and when she knew it. We now have a direct accusation that the Democrats are culpable because of their withholding of prior knowledge of Foley's online boy-bothering beat-off breaks. Rep. Shimkus (R-Buttville), the head of the House Page Committee, said in a radio interview, "People, like Sen. Durbin and Nancy Pelosi, who are using this for partisan gain, they ought to be ashamed of themselves."

Thank God, Pelosi lashed back right away: "Republicans just don't get it; every mother in America is asking how Republicans could choose partisan politics over protecting kids, and the Republicans are still asking who could have blown their cover-up."

However, I simply must ask, Is this what it took to help a few Democrats find their spines?

You know what, Minstrel Boy? You and I both know what's going on over in Iraq. So do a whole lot of other people. We're watching American soldiers getting butchered in a war we are not going to win. We are not going to win because there isn't any "win" scenario anywhere within a thousand light-years of the reality on the ground.

And here we finally get Democrats roaring in righteous indignation because they're accused of being part of a Republican cover-up about a pervert.

GOD!


Okay, okay. I feel that pain shooting down my left arm again.

I shouldn't be so harsh. There have been Democratic politicians, and even some of other stripes, yelling bloody murder all along about this Iraq debacle and about the massive, systemic attack on our own Constitution, and it's been the mainstream, flag-waving, phony media crawling to the power-masters du jour in Washington that have ignored them. I have to remember that.

I need to sit down and drink some more high-caffeine coffee.



The Dark Wraith might also take a nice aspirin just to stave off the heart attack for another day or two.

Sat Oct 07, 04:37:37 PM EDT  
 oldwhitelady blogged...

Good afternoon, Dark Wraith.

I really like your graphic. It put me in mind of Picasso's "Don Quixote", for some reason.

I, for one, am hoping that the Grand Ole Party get no treats for Halloween! They've been busy scaring the people for these many years, it's time the tables were turned.. they deserve scares, fears, and to be booted out!

Sat Oct 07, 04:43:53 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, Old White Lady.

Although the Republicans will get no free treats for Hallowe'en, it appears that, at least in the case of Mr. Foley, there was quite an effort to get some free tricks.


The Dark Wraith thinks the Republican leadership should long ago have taken away Rep. Foley's candy bag.

Sat Oct 07, 04:53:22 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

And if anyone's interested in the second phase that might explode in the Foley scandal, keep your eyes and ears open for the name "Jeff Trandahl."

Facts:
◊ House Clerk for six years.
◊ Quietly removed last year.
◊ Legendary among pages for being mean as dirt to them.
◊ Buddy of Foley.
◊ Openly gay (and always known as such to the House Republicans who live on their craven, public anti-gay rhetoric).
◊ Now alleged to have been in charge of telling Foley several times long ago to knock it off with the instant messages.
◊ Now, he's on a growing list of Hastert's Worst Nightmares, possibly unwillingly.

More fun:
◊ Fed law enforcement sees a radioactive mess. It might have to say it can't prosecute.
◊ If it does say that, watch all Hell break loose.
◊ Hastert's top administrative assistant, the über-powerful Scott Palmer, is now contradicted by a second staffer who says he (and therefore Hastert) knew about Foley a long time ago.
◊ Watch for another staffer to come forward in the next few days contradicting Hastert.
◊ Watch the fireworks with Bush's weekly radio address: if he addresses the Foley matter, he'll bungle it, and the Democratic response will eat him alive; if he doesn't address it, the Democratic response will eat him alive.


It just gets sweeter and sweeter.


The Dark Wraith watches the ring of fire deepen.

Sat Oct 07, 06:33:03 PM EDT  
 Moody Blue blogged...

Wraith, this is another great graphic.

Oh, my memory must be slipping. Isn't this the same GOP crowd (R-Pompous) that spent a lot of time and ton of money investigating a BJ? While some of the biggest decriers (R-Hypocrite) were having little affairs of their own?

And some members of this party (R-Asshat) now have the gall to be upset for getting caught with their own pants down? Pfft! They've hung themselves.

*

Yes, there are those who do pay attention to this administration's lack of concern for our troops, and it really ticks *some* of us off. The MSM, with mostly Republican ownership, is as responsible for the lack of real news reporting as others are who still support this mis-administration's wrong-mindedness and disconnect with reality. It's been kind of hard for the Dems to not be allowed much of a voice in "the news" and worse, in Congress.

The lying liars have created their own can of worms. Let's go fishing and see what else we can catch. It's time. Now.

Minstrel Boy, I am sorry. I'm sad with you. It hurts my heart that our troops die, are injured and put in harm's way because of lies.

Wraith, take care of yourself. Too much caffeine isn't so good. (Race ya to the coffee pot.)

Sun Oct 08, 05:46:28 AM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

DW, you above all people are cognizant of the extent to which those electronic voting machines now in place all over the country are vulnerable to systematic hacking.

Given such, why are you optimistic about this election, when all it takes is the right people deploying themselves in the right way with the right hacking technology, and this election is another Republican victory - regardless of how the people actually voted (and none it can be tracked because the hacking programs can be created so they erase themselves without a trace after their work is done)?

- oddjob

Sun Oct 08, 08:38:35 AM EDT  
 Missouri Mule blogged...

What oddjoy said! As my dear ol' pappy used to say, "Don't count your chickens until the eggs hatch, little missy."

(OT) Darkest One are you getting any of the smoke signals I'm sending you or am I on some sort of a list.

MoMu rides off to the Pony Express depot to check her mail.

Sun Oct 08, 10:48:35 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, Missouri Mule.

I have received no messages from you since October 2. I have just checked the filters at the server, and there I found nothing.

Look over in the sidebar in the section "Blog Marginalia"; there you'll see a link called "Forum Feedback." That's a form e-mail that you and everyone else can use to send me messages of any length. The form resides on my server, so it does not go through the usual Internet process of being passed around all over Hell's half acre on its way to me. It is a very secure and assured way of communicating with me.

The internal messaging system at Big Brass Blog is similar, although I still need to do a final, thorough check in the backroom to ensure that it doesn't have an unintended trap door of some kind (I don't think it does, but I can't be sure until I really look at the code one more time and think about what I'm seeing).

Send me your messages again, Missouri Mule, with the message form.


The Dark Wraith is now, once again, worrying about just how many e-mail messages that have been sent to him have never arrived.
[And what a toad he looks like to those who never heard a word back from him.]

Sun Oct 08, 11:29:45 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, OddJob. (And I swear to you that I shall say nothing about Missouri Mule's typographical error in her first line above where she referred to you as 'Oddjoy'... I promise.)

You are correct: I know more than enough to be sure that the November election is going to be manipulated by Diebold and other voting machine manufacturers. You recall that I recounted in some detail, in fact, how I have even had my whiz-kid students in computer science classes design software manipulation schemes to alter elections using the same Access base Diebold uses.

I would dearly love to broaden the discussion to explain that this entire "electronic voting" craze that swept through the country over the past decade was a classic example of legislators who had no business whatsoever imposing upon something as critical as the democratic process a technology about which they hadn't the first clue.

People use the word "computer" just like they use the computer, itself: they see it, they can accomplish tasks on it, and they thereby believe that they have a sufficient grasp of it to make rational decisions beyond themselves about its broader purposes and the necessity of integrating "it" into every nook and cranny of culture. That's actually beneficial at the level of the individual, the business enterprise, and even possibly (in limited ways) at the primary and secondary schooling levels. But the broader the imposition--the more the imposition reaches to the core of a fundamental substrate of how a society puts itself together to function--the more dangerous that "everything should be computerized" mentality gets.

You know what, OddJob? I am a dumbass when it comes to computers. As much as I know, as many gee-whiz-how'd-you-do-that things I create, as many years of intensive work I've done in coding, in building and maintenance, and in teaching, I am a dumbass about computers.

And the reason is because "computer" is such a ridiculous oversimplification of what the Age of Machines is about as to render the discussion irrelevant at the get-go, semantic level.

"Oh, but we can rely on experts to inform us," is the indignant howl from the bowels of everything from business management to legislative management and oversight.

No, you can't: the "experts" do not have a single mind, and more importantly, they do not have a single set of incentives. And the truth of the matter is that the legislators who wave their hands and say, "We must computerize the elections," don't have a single set of incentives, either.

Right now, OddJob, we are seeing how far an entire political party--from its leadership right down through its ranks--would go to keep just one miserable seat in Congress. What in God's name makes people think that this is a party that would not, if it grasped that it had the opportunity, do everything it could to ensure that a technological implementation on the very democratic process itself would not ensure that congressional seats would be secured to that same party?

Here's the kicker, though, OddJob: overrun. Many of the elections will come out anomalously in favor of Republican candidates, but the software manipulations will not be sufficient to thwart landslides, not unless the ways it looks like the elections were being manipulated before are changed, and I don't think they're going to be able to re-do at least some of the machines out there.

That does not mean other methods will not be in place. Ken Blackwell's systematic manipulation of the Ohio election in 2004 had a very simple but effective component: he simply ensured that lots of people who would have voted Democratic didn't get the chance to do so. No doubt, from the detailed look I've had at what happened at the machine level, there was stunning vote manipulation; but he also manipulated the outcome by old-fashioned, nasty disenfranchisement.

And he, as the Secretary of State of Ohio, is in charge of the oversight of this election, even though he, himself, is running for governor.

I cannot here get into the extent to which the judiciary has failed the republic in being disinterested in and wholly incapable of dealing with what is happening across the broad spectrum of vote integrity issues.

But I will tell you this, OddJob: mark my word, I am seeing what is possibly one of the biggest tides of public backlash building against a party in decades. The Foley sex scandal is nothing but an excuse people are using to explain the desire for disruptive change they could otherwise not be able to express.

Look, people who voted for Bush in particular and the Republicans overall are now in the position of having to face the fact that their decisions were not just bad, but that they, themselves, were the ones who made those bad decisions. I don't see a snowball's chance in Hell of the average American voter standing up and saying, "My entire mentality of how best to run this country was really, really messed up." That's not going to happen. Not right now, anyway.

But you give those same former Republican supporters a sex scandal--something where they can stand on a self-righteous pedestal and say, "Well, I'd never put up with that"--and you've just given them the Golden Excuse Key to deal with the mess their votes created in the first place.

What's going to happen when this election is hacked? I honestly see a small but real probability of all Hell breaking loose. But that can happen only if we set aside (no, drag out and shoot) the Gore-Kerry martyr mentality that "the system" is the only recourse the people of a democracy have. That means it is incumbent upon those who really care about what happens this November to be ready, willing, and able to do more than just scream bloody murder if outcomes aren't as expected.

This is a moment, OddJob: call it a "teachable, winnable" moment when we can effect change, both through the election process, itself, and through the aftermath when the American people are finally willing to see through the lies.

That moment won't come again. If the Republicans retain control of Congress, they'll bleat themselves into rehabilitation about "reform" and rectitude and some crap about a "new direction" that they simply cannot deliver but will pretend to put into place in such a way as to ensure that the United States of America will become the Republican United States of America. Permanently.

If the Republicans want to manipulate this election, let them go ahead and give it their best shot. We'll see if they're ready for the aftermath.


The Dark Wraith has spoken.

Sun Oct 08, 12:24:35 PM EDT  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

Good morning Dark Wraith:

i too, see a small, faint, yet nevertheless real possiblity for a groundswell opposition to a shamelessly hacked election. i also see no effort on the part of the republicans to steal something that would not be shameless.

don't worry about the sounds from the barn this week. the plowshare's been converted already. i will be busy turning the pruning hook back into a spear. i won't miss farming a bit.

Sun Oct 08, 03:32:14 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, Minstrel Boy.

Yes, as I recall, farming was quite exhausting and not nearly as exhilerating as hunting.

And speaking of shameless, I must ask forgiveness for pointing to the advertisements in the sidebar for another part of the "perfect storm" that's brewing. David Kuo, formerly the Deputy Director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, is setting loose a rip into the Bush Administration: his book, Tempting Faith, will be on the shelves October 16.

It would appear that the faithful Christians who have been the backbone of the Bush Administration's support have abandoned prayerful perseverence and are now heading for the life rafts.

Those life rafts, by the way, are located at the end of the hallway marked "FTS"*.



*(FTS=F*ck This Ship.)



The Dark Wraith is going to Hell.

Sun Oct 08, 04:21:19 PM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

The Dark Wraith is going to Hell.

No, we are there already.

- oddjob

Sun Oct 08, 10:12:16 PM EDT  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

Good Evening Dark Wraith:

Watching the Republicans climb over each other as they race to put distance between themselves and the trouble raining down reminds me of my favorite nautical proverb, which I first heard from Master Chief Boatswain's Mate Norr as I was manning the pumps:

When the water passes your knees lad, follow the rats

Sun Oct 08, 11:39:40 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

...and follow the first one*.




*(He's leaving first, so he's the smartest.)

Mon Oct 09, 12:02:39 AM EDT  
 t rogers blogged...

Good morning, Mr. Wraith. As usual, Excellent graphic. In response to your quotation about circular jerk repubs: mum's the word! And the "Foley efforts to get tricks" was my first laugh out loud this morning.

Once again, Oddjob has nailed it as to my worst fear this election season. I do realize that rigging a vote machine cannot be as easy a task as some believe. The major factor, I think, is that 'loose lips sink ships'. Someone in on the scam may say something to the wrong person, who blabs...although I don't recall any factual fingerpointing from 04. If shananigans were discovered(close contests would be I would look) it may be a godsend toward real voting reform.

Tricks ARE treats...ahahahahahaha!

Mon Oct 09, 09:01:31 AM EDT  
 t rogers blogged...

(Close contests are WHERE I would look). Sorry, too much time spent reading Asia Times comments section, maybe?

Mon Oct 09, 09:05:11 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Try reading American college students' essay question answers for a couple of hours and maintain some semblance of grammatical integrity.

Wed Oct 11, 02:48:57 PM EDT  
 Gary blogged...

Brilliant!

Wed Oct 11, 08:15:44 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Afternoon Dark Wraith,

That means it is incumbent upon those who really care about what happens this November to be ready, willing, and able to do more than just scream bloody murder if outcomes aren't as expected.


Everywhere I go, when I see this sentiment, I ask: OK, what are we gonna do? 'Cause if we don't have plans in place beforehand, we won't have time to formulate one before the Supremes make another non-precident setting decision about who gets to represent us. Do you think they have those concentration camps ready for dissidents yet? Do they have the balls to use them? Do you think they have the balls to use the new and spiffy anti personel non-leathal weapons they've been working on?

I'm ready to march on DC, but I'd really like to live to dissent once again...

Thu Oct 12, 02:04:40 PM EDT  

       

Wednesday, October 04, 2006

Special Blog Post:
Fun with Trolls

A troll slithered into a sunsetting post over at Big Brass Blog to defend former Congressman Mark Foley, who is alleged to have engaged in sexually charged electronic communications with under-aged youth working as Congressional pages. I herewith share here at The Dark Wraith Forums the article I published at Big Brass Blog in response to said weasel.

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The happy little Right-wing seal came out to the rocks jutting out of the water at Big Brass Blog Beach, and there he started his Right-wing bark:
Oh, by the way. To all members of the lunatic left-wing fringe:

In the District of Columbia, the legal age of sexual consent is 16.

Need a link?

http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

Now, if you're going to start bitching and screaming that even if it's legal, it's inappropriate for a 50-something politician to have sex with an unpaid young volunteer, and any such politician should be forced to resign immediately just for suggesting it ...

... need I remind you ...
by: GrouchoMarx (contact) - 03 Oct '06 - 01:25
And the killer whale came up from behind, creating a giant wave that washed the little Right-wing seal into the frothing surf, where the killer whale snatched him and took him out to open water, there to playfully toss him up and down and up and down... and then to eat him alive.
Good evening, GrouchoMarx.

Rep. Foley committed a federal crime. In fact, an indictment would include multiple counts on the charge. That is the issue. Oh, yes: conspiracy after the fact and obstruction of justice by several members of the Republican House leadership might be issues, too. Sometimes I'm so forgetful when I'm getting giddy watching hateful, power-hungry, old White men doing an impromptu group implosion. It's like watching group sex, except there's no cheesy music, and the moaning isn't fake.

But let's set all that legal mumbo-jumbo aside. I need to point out something else, something far more timely and compelling. Should you decide to try Mr. Foley's trick on a 16-year-old girl or boy in my custody, be sure to remind me about that age of consent thing of yours.

I'll find that pretty informative while I'm putting your perverted ass into one of those wheelchairs with the built-in, gravity-assist pee-bag attachment.

And by the way, if you don't understand the difference between a 23-year-old who went to Washington to "earn [her] Presidential kneepads" and a 16-year-old smoothie who doesn't need Mr. StiffWood helping him figure out which gate swings with the sweet song for him, I'll bet you already qualify for the Libertarian Consequences of Too Much Free Speech re-imbursement program for that wheelchair.

In other words, you and Foley take heed: bother the wrong kids and swear to God you thought they were 23 years old, and the last thing you'll need to worry about is being the Featured Special in the Fresh Meat Aisle at some federal penitentiary grocery store.

Come to think of it, you'll be so messed up you'll have to dress up like a pork chop to get ugly dogs to like you when the vigilantes are finished with the old one-two counseling session. Trust me, Groucho, it's not worth stepping up to the plate to join the Pervert Dinner Brigade to get a helping of the Ass Beating Buffet. You'll end up paying for your meal and theirs.

In other words, Groucho, get off it. When those 'lunatic left-wing fringe' folks take over the government and start doing the renditions on the likes of you and your buddies, you really, really don't want any of that sex stuff on the interrogation agenda, especially if you get sent to someplace like Syria or Egypt. Those torturers do special things to the perverts and their supporters. I think you'll agree with me that being Mr. Foley's friend right now isn't going to be worth the price when you meet 'Dr. Omar' in a dungeon on the other side of the world, where he'll use special electrodes designed to make testicles flash "Eat at Joe's... Eat at Joe's." I mean, really. But, hey, it's your call.

I'm not paying for your wheelchair. Or the smoke detector.

The Dark Wraith has thus finished the friendly toss-the-seal session for the evening.

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 SB Gypsy blogged...

Sometimes I wish we still had a place that these powermongering perverts could be banished to... Jail is not sufficient punishment for the likes of what is pretending to run our government these days.

Wed Oct 04, 08:42:31 AM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

Sometimes I wish we still had a place that these powermongering perverts could be banished to...

Baghdad

Wed Oct 04, 12:12:41 PM EDT  
 Eric A Hopp blogged...

Dark Wraith: Nice way to put a troll in its place. The best way to take out a troll is to expose the lies that troll will post in his/her comments. Expose the hypocrisy. That's how you stop them.

I found myself getting involved with a troll named Kirk over at Moxigrrrl regarding the Iraq war. I pretty much ripped Kirk's arguments to shredded wheat as we went through a whole number of issues from Iraq, Osama, a connection between FDR's New Deal programs and the World Trade Center attacks (I still don't know what the connection is between FDR's New Deal program and the terrorist attacks, or the recessions of 2002), and even Bill Clinton. Througout the debate, I kept a very moderate, and pleasant tone--never insulted his personal character, while Kirk threw enough hatred over to me. He ended up ignoring me at the end of the commentary thread.

I've condensed the thread of the debate between Kirk and myself here on my own blog.

That is how I took out a troll. This is how we should all take out the trolls that come on the liberal and progressive blogsites to spread their hate and lies--throw their lies back in their faces with carefully reasoned arguments that exposes the lies. And keep a pleasant manner when exposing them. That will piss the trolls off even more since they will discover that they can't get you angry enough to hurl insults against them--insults that they can then use when they send the comments back to their own freeperville blogs claiming the liberals are crazy.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Wed Oct 04, 12:32:45 PM EDT  
 SAP blogged...

Good evening, Dark Wraith.

Now that was a righteous beatdown. Nicely administered, sir.

Wed Oct 04, 02:03:25 PM EDT  
 oldwhitelady blogged...

Good evening, Dark Wraith.

That was quite a response! I enjoyed reading it.

I've come to the conclusion that these crazy Republican types aren't really anti-gay, they just hate gays that are open about their sexuality.

Strangely, though, they seem to love and embrace the closet variety.

It seems as if a lot of the people, who aren't honest about their sexuality, have nasty little secrets that can ruin their careers....<-re: Republican - I realize lots of people have nasty little secrets - it doesn't matter whether they're gay or hetero.

Wed Oct 04, 06:57:28 PM EDT  
 The Fat Lady Sings blogged...

Congressman Rodney Alexander from Louisiana sponsored the page in question. He said yesterday that the boy has already received a number of death threats for revealing those emails. DEATH THREATS. Can you imagine? From the likes of that troll no doubt. Someone who sees life through the narrow lens all neocon illiterates seem to cultivate. Anything threatening the Republican hegemony is evil and therefore must be destroyed. Never mind that a child predator has been uncovered and stopped. It seems in the screwed up world of conservative thought, pederasty is good - as long as it is practiced by Republicans. I find this whole situation repugnant in the extreme. Especially the “abuse excuse” Foley has employed. How heartless of the man - and how dismissive of everyone who has suffered through true abuse and chosen not to repeat the sins of the past. When I heard that bromide slither out of his attorney’s mouth - I wanted to reach into the television and shake that asshole within an inch of his life. Abuse is a choice - not a genetic imperative. To imply that it is - renders the work those of us fighting to overcome our pasts have done as null and void. And damn Foley to hell for suggesting it!

As for Kirk over at MoxieGirrl - he was one of the reasons I stopped frequenting her site. She’s wonderful – but trolls like him can hijack a thread and ruin a good discussion in no time flat. I tend to avoid conversations that are plagued by them.

Thu Oct 05, 12:41:11 AM EDT  
 Eric A Hopp blogged...

Fat Lady Sings: MoxieGrrrl is a fun site to visit, and yes the trolls like Kirk seem to frequent her site. But trolls are a part of the blogging life. I've pasted Kirk once before, and I'll paste him again. I'm in the process of debating him on the Foley scandal here, although Kirk is a little more wary of taking me on--seems I have to draw out his comments and views now, because he doesn't want to talk to me.

The way to stop trolls from hijacking a thread is to confront them--expose their hypocrisy and lies. After taking out Kirk in the previous debate on Iraq, he really didn't show up on Moxie's site until just recently.

Thu Oct 05, 02:16:30 AM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

Great smackdown, again, Wraith!

What is it with trolls in that they always seem to be half-facted? This one overlooked the part about solicitation and sexual discussion with minors, under the age of 18, is now a federal crime since the passage of the "Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006" - which Foley co-authored.

The way things are going for the Republicans right now, they're probably praying to God Cheney will shoot some old lawyer's face off again just to distract everyone from all this sex stuff.

LOL!

(Hey! Why are all those radical fundijeezicals on the "religious" right so darn quiet on this scandal?)

Thu Oct 05, 03:31:48 AM EDT  
 Moody Blue blogged...

Oooop, that Nonnie Mouse was herself.

Thu Oct 05, 03:33:51 AM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

Sully's quote for the day (for yesterday):

"We will make you successful, as long as you don't mind me grabbing your [deleted] once in a while," - Congressman Mark Foley to a Congressional page.

- oddjob

Thu Oct 05, 05:13:42 AM EDT  
 karen m blogged...

Good morning, Dark Wraith.

You are my hero. Well done.

Thu Oct 05, 08:37:52 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, Karen M.

If you haven't been following it, we have a rather fun thread going from Chet Scoville's latest article over at Big Brass Blog.


The Dark Wraith does like to limit his tendency to patience every once in a while.

Thu Oct 05, 09:53:56 AM EDT  
 Frederick blogged...

I used to love my trolls, they don't come around much anymore...

=(

Thu Oct 05, 01:38:09 PM EDT  
 Lily blogged...

Ah, Dark Wraith. I would prefer a world where such "schooling" would not even be necessary, but unfortunately the world is not that way. You are a sweet blend of elegant assertion.

"Nonnie Mouse" cut to the chase as well.

As for trolls, I am split. I enjoy hearing diverse views, and think smart trolls can really add something. But unfortunately the troll formula often lacks reason and the strategy of "deal with trolls, point out their hypocrisy" doesn't always work. If they responded to a fact based reality, they would not hold their views in the first place!

My Pet Trolls (or so I call them) at Blue Republic have a formula.

Mention civil liberties, claim we hate god or the baby jesus. Criticize Bush, they drag out Clinton. Talk about global warming, they talk about Gore as an opportunist bitter crybaby. Talk about Coulter or Rush or any wingutty hagmeat-then they will talk about every damn movie Michael Moore ever made. Talk about jobs, they talk about the stock high. (that took SIX YEARS, Hello!)

There's really a set script, and I see it on Fox, I see it on their blogs (which I read like a masochist) and its the same stupid logic over and over.

Where can you go with such people? it amounts to a huge waste of time, and FLS is right in that it often derails everything. Everyone becomes reactive, when perhaps we should let them express themselves but not give them so much legitimacy. Sometimes I see us falling all over ourselves to fight... and they thrive on ruffling our feathers then walking away chuckling like frat boys.

On The FDR question, whats that about? I have heard that certain relationhips with certain English over certain currency manipulations, gold, the petrodollar and bourse- somehow swirled in with the NY-London oil exchange and renovations of the former exchange in the twin towers related to opportunity for controlled demolition ALL connects, perhaps with some more "blame the Masons, Illuminati, Jewish Conspiracy, Aliens" kind of stuff.

This gal wouldn't dare prevail upon the Dark Wraith's good graces to whack THAT pinata.

Thu Oct 05, 01:46:36 PM EDT  
 Charles2 blogged...

Beautiful, Dark Wraith, absolutely beautiful.

*sniff*

Thu Oct 05, 04:27:18 PM EDT  
 jahf blogged...

If you haven't been following it, we have a rather fun thread going from Chet Scoville's latest article over at Big Brass Blog.

Forgive me, Dark Wraith, for I have sinned--I have taken joy in the shredding of a helpless (hopeless?) Newbie.

Fri Oct 06, 12:38:51 AM EDT  
 t rogers blogged...

D d dat's what I'm talkin' about! But then you mess it all up with that top right comment. you point a finger at the "sex distractions" then you talk about Cheney shooting off on some poor lawyer's face...what? Read what again. Oh. Sorry.

Fri Oct 06, 12:59:16 AM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

we have a rather fun thread going from Chet Scoville's latest article over at Big Brass Blog.

It is so fun, that instead of discreditting the troll or proving him wrong, DW just banning him.

Sat Oct 07, 10:03:51 AM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

(In the mind of the troll, who would never understand no matter how clearly it was explained.........)

- oddjob

Sat Oct 07, 11:55:25 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, Newbie.

OddJob is right on the mark: you won't get it.

That's why you have a time-out in effect on you; and for all your righteous indignation about the unfairness of it all, this is how it should have been done all along against the harangue of Right-wingers who tried to pose as if they had something reasonable to say.

Many readers know of my patience: I have had conservatives and even Right-wingers come here. They were respectful, they listened, they disagreed, they modified their stance, they held their ground on certain matters, and they are always, always welcome back. Several of them send e-mail messages to me.

You, on the other hand, need a time-out. The era of progressives sitting back and playing the hand of infinite patience and principled, unending tolerance is coming to a close real fast. And the Democrats in Congress better be aware of this: their spinelessness is on the agenda, too.

You may rejoin the discussions under a new handle in a certain number of weeks, should you choose to keep checking. If you can't control yourself in a second pass under a different handle (and no one will ever know the new you was the New-bie), you'll be banned permanently; and if you try to go around the ban, you'll find out what a real bitch of a tech wizard I am when it comes to stopping admins at servers from allowing stuff I don't want to get through.

I offer you stern lecture, and your young sneer is all I and the others get. You have lost your privilege to speak in the company of the voices I publish. But you might want to find out that, if you will just stop your sneering, condescension, and utter dismissal of fact-based arguments, you will be welcome, and I'll be the one to invite you in.

Or you can stay out too long with the others like you, and then you'll finally get sick of their phony arguments and distorted thinking, but you'll have burned your bridges back to the place where people of sound reason and good will would have cared enough to let you in.


The Dark Wraith has said what needs to be said on this matter.

Sat Oct 07, 05:09:20 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

And to everyone else here, I do apologize for the rather uncharacteristically harsh tone I've taken with that particular troll.

I've no intention of making it policy to talk like some stern father to those who disagree with me, but in rare instances the situation merits an unsympathetic stance. This is one of those, and my response in the end was based upon what I've seen both in political discourse and in some parts of academia where Right-wing students are using this same tactic of haranguing a point over and over to disrupt classes where the professors weren't strong-willed enough to crack down.

I'm just not the kind of professor--or the kind of publisher--who lets that kind of deliberate, ill-willed behavior go too far. That's why I have great classes with wonderfully productive discussions; and it's how I propose to have great publications, too.


The Dark Wraith is trying to act like he didn't really growl loudly enough to scare everyone off.

Sat Oct 07, 05:45:14 PM EDT  
 Eric A Hopp blogged...

Lily: I never received an answer from Kirk regarding the FDR's New Deal and the 9/11 terrorist attacks either--even though I asked him like six times to please explain his reasoning. Kirk told me to go read the "documentary" Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand--his words, not mine. I guess Kirk secretly wished that if I read Ayn Rand, the Light of God would shine upon me, creating an epiphany, discovering the wickedness of my evil, liberal ways, and to join him in the ranks of Freeperville. So there is a connection between FDR's New Deal program, the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and the recessions of 1990 and 2002--I don't know what the connections are, but Kirk said I would understand it all if I read Atlas Shrugged.

Kirk couldn't even explain his reasoning. He couldn't place the connection between FDR, the WTC attacks and even Atlas Shrugged into a couple paragraphs. While I've never read Ayn Rand, I've certainly have heard of Atlas Shrugged, and even went to Wikipedia to see if I could understand this concept. It is bizarre. In fact it is so bizarre that even a religious fanatic like Kirk couldn't even understand the concept.

Sun Oct 08, 01:28:45 PM EDT  
 Wild Clover blogged...

Eric:
I have read "Atlas Shrugged" multiple times, I even bought it in hardback way back when. I don't see any connection between FDR, etc., unless it is some stretch about the rise of the unprincipled mediocre over the principled achiever that (in the right-wingnut mindset)has stemmed from the fact that due to FDR the underachiever has a safety net and does not simply starve to death. Unfortunately for that stretch, the main underachiever in another of her books("The Fountainhead"), Peter Keating, is very similar to what I imagine our dear president is in actuality. The book appeals to my libertarian/capitalist streak, but even in my youth, I realized that in the real world not everyone is capable of caring for themselves, and society has a moral obligation to provide. SO I enjoy Rand's novels as novels. I have attempted some of her theory books-they suck. Her whole philosophy only works for the greatest good if everyone were born with moral fibre and ability. It does not fit the range of human actions one has to deal with in the real world. Kind of like anarchy-works fine in a group where everyone acts with enlightened self-interest and follows the golden rule, but all you need are a couple of folks who are greedy or power-seeking and the system as a social construct breaks down. I have not been reading the thread you all are referncing, but it is kind of a hoot that someone described as a religious fanatic would be referencing Ayn Rand's work-it is actively anti-organized-religion and the heroes all tend to be athiests. Just weirdness.

Now, maybe AS ties in because the best and brightest individualists all suffer while the mediocre and brown-nosers rise to the top. The wingnut contingent has a perpetual self-esteem problem/persecution complex, and they may be trying to cast themselves in the role of the brilliant individual. Who knows how the troll mind works?

Sun Oct 08, 04:48:34 PM EDT  
 Eric A Hopp blogged...

Wild Clover: So the connection between Atlas Shrugged and FDR's New Deal program is "some stretch about the rise of the unprincipled mediocre over the principled achiever that (in the right-wingnut mindset)has stemmed from the fact that due to FDR the underachiever has a safety net and does not simply starve to death." That is such a thin connection between Atlas Shrugged and FDR's New Deal program, that even I would have trouble comprehending it. Wikipedia's entry really doesn't show this connection.

But I can see the appeal of this argument by the Freepers and the right-wingnuts in their own crazed desire to destroy the social net--a social net that would benefit them more than the rich elitists and corporatists who both control the Republican Party and have brainwashed the wingnuts into believing the opposite of their self-interests. The Republicans love to tout individualism and independence over that of a collective social good. But what happens when the middle-class American loses their factory jobs due to outsourcing, and there are no replacement jobs that will pay the prevailing wages of those lost factory jobs? The freepers can't understand that concept, or they just choose to ignore it.

Wed Oct 11, 09:09:30 PM EDT  
 thepoetryman blogged...

Eric,
You're wasting your time "taking on" Kirk. He is a harmless, albeit annoying, parody of all that is holy. He's putting you on, my friend. He is nothing more than a prankster. He wins by pulling you in and you win by ignoring his pranks.

Peace.

Thu Oct 12, 03:15:29 AM EDT  
 thepoetryman blogged...

Dark Wraith,
You're growl I'm sure was warranted.

Peace.

Thu Oct 12, 03:19:09 AM EDT