Editorial:
The Rightful Nation
I invite you to read below the edited comments made to me and the extensive version of my statements in response. Decide for yourselves if this sounds like what you think and how you honestly feel. If it is, then I say this to you: welcome; I knew the true America was here all along.
The commenter intiated the discourse as follows:
To make moral comparisons between two nations or groups of people at war assumes that first a moral/ethical equal footing can be found and second, the terms of and or reasons for the conflict are given.In response to that comment, I posited the metric for comparisons between and among wars not by motives, but rather by outcomes; I then used that guide to assess our current leaders' wars.
It should be as plain as the nose on the face of the proverbial donkey, at least by now, that the reasons for war are multi-layered and unique to the nations that are engaged in it; this war is not any different.
I thought about this for a few minutes and have the opinion that if the reasons for this war are understood, the moral obligations to our own country do outweigh the moral obligations to the other country.
It is truly sickening to think that in a country where people think less about the starving/homeless and more about the $250 a month flute lessons for their 6 year old, people have the bad taste to champion the plight of some middle eastern nation whose main interest in this conflict involves GOD not country or self interests.
Whose moral center do you relate to? Blowing up Americans for GOD (A-LA)? Or blowing up Iraqis and Muslim/Islamic terrorists for deterence and self preservation?
I resolve distinction by result and consequence: if two actions, regardless of claim for inspiration, come to the same result and have the same consequence, then the actions are equivalent.In return for that overview of my position, the commenter brought forth a reasonable and traditional challenge.
One murderer can claim God commanded him to his foul deed while another murderer can claim that Satan bid him commit his outrage. In both cases, people died as a result of the crime; therefore, the crime is the same: it is premeditated murder.
Whether or not both men heard voices, whether or not both men feel that they acted from strength of conviction, they both committed murder. No amount of their own pleadings should sway the objective execution of justice upon them.
In precisely the same way, the particular plea of the country that goes to war is irrelevant to the objective determination of what it has done.
I am weary of hearing "special and mitigating circumstances": this is the bleeding heart of those unable to properly adjudicate the guilt of and punishment for either the individual who has acted wrongly or the nation that has done so.
In both cases, there will be people incapable of rendering justice. Still worse, it is impossible to cabin their apologies in one or several cases: their soft-heartedness spreads like a cancer until the society is full of "special circumstances" maniacs and the world is full of "well we understand this war" allies of rogue nations.
The horde of the Right in this country makes no representation to true conservatism by patting any country—our own included—on the back and letting it get by with wrongful action. I have made my position abundantly clear in op-ed articles like "The Belt of Justice": a President who lies gets no better treatment than my own kin who would lie to cause death and destruction to others and to our own people. Both the bad child and the bad nation deserve and must receive certain, severe, and swift retributive punishment, and the wailing of supporters, friends, and other weaklings cannot serve as a deterrent to rightful action. Neither the child nor the nation will find rectitude in some fairy-tale world of soft-and-cuddly "understanding."
I will not be lied to. I will not have kids die for someone's twisting of facts to fit bad behavior, bad policy, or bad anything.
And make no mistake about it: I was trained to kill people whom I was told are my enemies. I reached adulthood when I came to realize that my moral obligation does not end with some commander's words; it ends with my judgment, drawing down whatever God-given moral authority I can bring to bear upon the situation from within myself. If it ever comes to my own determination—after I've heard what some President or his war-hawk cowards have to say—that I really do face an enemy, I will have no problem with killing, and I will do so with a prejudice only another soldier would understand. To defend my society, my property, my kin, or my tribe—even those of my own who hate my political philosophy—I will not have a major problem with drawing blood in such a manner as will deter the madmen from ever returning from their filthy holes in Hell.
That's another application of that belt of justice to which I referred above. God help my enemy should that belt need to be brought down upon his disgusting, unworthy ass.
And God help my leaders in the same circumstance.
I do see your point, however, the atrocities of war and the suffrage of innocent people are two things that comprise the cornerstone of American enterprise and have shaped the persona and ethos of American people.This afforded me the opportunity to set forth, without concern for perhaps offending those of a less conservative nature than I, my judgment.
Shall we now turn our backs on what was, what is and what shall be forever more--human conquest--or shall we embrace anew our commitment to capitalism?
At risk of talking from first one side of my mouth and then the other, I must admit that although the United States of America is a great country and it took the lives of countless thousands of brave warriors to maintain the freedoms it's citizens and guests now enjoy, I would be hard pressed to find a single good reason to empose this nations tactics in that regard on another country unless either provoked to do so or we/the host nation convinced us it was neccessary for our own protection.
Question: Precisely what were the manner of tactics invoked by citizens of foreign nations that brought us as a country to the state of affairs we now find ourselves in--with particular regard to the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan--as you understand it?
You and I both know the world has many evil people in it; and by the word "evil," I certainly do not mean merely "bad": I mean evil in a visceral, insensible way that measures its life not in human years, but rather in ages, possessing weaklings of any given era with its worst excesses, making them strong in its grip that they might in rare instances rise to impose that awful thing upon a nation or even many nations.
Understand that I have no desire to see peoples of the world under the boot of monsters, be they murderous, self-righteous theocrats of Iran, the butcher of Uzbekistan, the corrupt tyrants of China, or the religious monstrosities that recently ruled Afghanistan.
We as a nation unfortunately have no problem with monsters so long as they do our bidding. The Taliban became our enemy not because they declined to participate in the pursuit and capture of Osama bin Laden, but rather because they had become insufferably obstructionist in negotiating rights of way for the movement of commercial hydrocarbon resources extracted to the East.
We as a nation didn't give a rat's backside about the atrocities Saddam Hussein committed upon ethnic and religious groups within Iraq. We wanted a militarily securable footprint on a major reserve of oil. Many, many people who supported the war in Iraq secretly, within their own hearts, knew very well that overrunning and occupying that country was a play to control a massive reservoir of petroleum. The American people did not embrace the lies set forth by the Bush Administration because of their compelling nature, but rather because of their plausibility against the obvious and outrageous alternative explanation that we were out to take what wasn't ours, and we were going to do so with whatever violence was necessary.
I am a teacher of economics and finance (among other subjects). I make no bones in class about the power of greed, and I make no apology for it as the motive force of growth unparalleled in human history. At the same time, I make no apology for the civil society that uses governmental institutions, social norms, and, yes, even religious tenets to circumscribe the passion that drives greed to corrosive ends. Like any other of what some branches of Christianity call "mortal sin," greed destroys just as surely as does wrath, gluttony, lust, or any other cancerous tissue that overtakes and finally suffocates the human and humane soul.
We labor under a persistent myth about the efficacy of war as transformative. Only the malevolent aggressor nation changes the world by such means, and then only for an age until brought low by the inevitable erosion of the venality of the succession of leaders in the despotic central state.
We did not become a free society on July 4, 1776. It didn't happen that way at all. We had been watched far too poorly, controlled far too loosely, imposed upon far too capriciously for way too long by our masters in Great Britain. By the time they finally came to grasp fully that we were already free but for their silly taxes and inadequate garrisons of troops, it was too late. Although we suffered mightily in the years after the declaration of our independence, the British had long before lost us as a colony, the Revolutionary War notwithstanding.
And that is not to say the war was not necessary and inevitable. It is to say that it was perfunctory. No one told us, "You are free." We made that call ourselves.
We will not free the Iraqis. They will do that themselves, maybe next year, maybe in a century. All we have done is deprive them of the madman capable of maintaining in relative peace and stability a nation incapable of sustaining itself otherwise as such simply because it was, from its inception, an artifice of a nascent, misguided, self-serving Western theory of the nation-state.
Afghanistan was another matter altogether. It was a mess before the Taliban, it is a mess now, and it will be a mess for centuries to come. All we're doing is feeding our kids into a sick meat grinder that's just going to keep on crushing them between maniacal religious zealots on one hand and violent drug lords on the other. That we choose the latter as our allies speaks volumes about the morality of our cause.
There is an incredible myth these days that I must address. It goes something like this: the Cold War is over.
Like Hell it is. We let down our guard because we thought the Cold War was between the Soviets and the West. Well, it wasn't: it was between our way of life and progress and another way of life and progress anathema to certain of our core values.
Seen in that light, the Berlin Wall coming down, all those "velvet," "purple," and whatever else revolutions in Eastern Europe were irrelevant. Forces anathema to our way of life were still out there, filling the vacuum our previous ideological foe had left in its pathetic passing.
The very same strength, resolve, intelligence, methods, and theories that had carried us for nearly half-a-century were still valid, still our best hand to play, and exactly the hand we have refused to play throughout this Administration.
The neo-cons didn't learn anything, and now we suffer every talking head mumbling about some "new era" that requires new methods. Well, here's some news for them: war was one of those things we tried and learned not to use; so was domestic repression.
It's like some kind of lobotomy was performed on the American psyche. Good God, we know how to win the world, but instead the neo-conservatives are going to have their wars come Hell or high water.
Does anyone remember what Reagan did after the bombing that killed all those Marines in Beirut? He pulled us out.
That's right, he got us out of there before we ended up in a quagmire. Nowfit of surprise!here come the neo-cons telling us that he made a huge mistake by letting the Islamists know that we could be scared off.
Well, they're dead wrong. He bought us a whole bunch of years with the Islamists believing we couldn't be suckered again into a decades-long killing box like Vietnam.
For all the reasons I would damn Reagan, particularly for his willingness to let small, venal idiots conduct his foreign policy in Central America, he earns praise for grasping what entirely eludes the fools in Washington today; and here's the lesson someone needs to ram down the collective throat of both the Republicans and the Democrats: unless you have absolutely no alternative, you never, ever let your enemies choose your wars.
It is among my greatest personal victories that I finally learned that principle of action for my own life.
It is time for America to learn that and other lessons our collective history is handing us if we would but listen to its truths rather than to the lies of small men inadequate to the challenge of stewardship of this noble cauldron of freedom we call the United States of America.
The Dark Wraith has thus spoken both his peace and his mind.
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While I'm not a historian, my brother is. After he returned from Sophia University in Tokyo back in the middle 70's we used to fish alot. I mean alot, every weekend all day for two days. We actually caught some fish. But mostly what I received was a continuing education, and a glaring realization that the foreign policy of the USA has never really fit all the bullshit about being free, having liberty, whatever that really is, it simply has tended to fit the company line. We treat others around the world like crap, and as long as a nation toes the line and works in our interests, which are normally for profit for the largest concerns, we allow their government to treat their citizens any way they want.
This could go on forever, but unfortunatly here we are in the present. I agree with DW on an excellent discussion of what really is at the heart of the issue, the time has come for us as a nation to actually define our interests. Hopefully within international law, and then work to sedure those interests.
When that happens, pigs will fly.
I'll admit, I'm most likely missing some of the point, maybe all we should be doing is commerce and business with the goal of getting a good deal for all parties involved. Somehow we missed the class on being better than human. What spooks me the most is that the good folk who could do the most to help are not, repeat, not in charge.
This is one of the best posts I've ever read, and this will bother me for the rest of the day. The question begs an answer, and a resolution. Or at least a suggestion on which path to proceed. All of this high and mighty bs about values is just that, bs. Where is the real moral authority?
Well, hell. I think it's too late anyway. But I hope I'm wrong.
SALAAM , SHALOM, PEACE
Dear Mr. President Bush & your Excellency the Pope Benedict
PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING PASSAGES FROM THE BIBLE AS IT HAS IMPLICATIONS ON THE WAR AGAINST TERROR/ISLAM and the claim of Israel that god gave them the land. If the child is an infant than the Judeo-Christian version becomes null and void and we are wasting our time and resources i.e. we could save trillions of dollars and create a more peaceful world rather than fighting against Islam the religion of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all).
The COVENANT with Abraham and his DESCENDANTS is central to islam/chritianity/judaism. IF PROPHET ABRAHAM WAS TESTED TO SACRIFICE ISMAEL AND NOT ISSAAC THEN BOTH JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY ARE DESTROYED AND VICE-VERSA FOR ISLAM.
Please note this is not a competition between faiths but an attempt to decipher fact from fiction.
GENESIS 16:16
And Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abram.
GENESIS 21:5
Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him.
At Genesis 22 Abraham had only 2 sons others came later. The Quran mentions that it was Ishmael that was sacrificed hence the reference in genesis 22:2 your only son can only mean someone has substituted Ishmael names for Isaac!!
BY DOING SOME KINDERGARTEN ARITHMATIC USING ARABIC NUMBERS (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10)
NOT ROMAN NUMERALS (I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X) NB no concept of zero in roman numerals.
100 years old – 86 years old = 14 ADD 3 YEARS FOR ISSAC’S WEANING
THAT WOULD MAKE ISHMAEL 17 YEARS OLD IN GENESIS 21:14-21
BUT IT IS A DESCRIPTION OF AN INFANT.
Carefully read several times the above passage and then tell me the mental picture you get between the mother child interactions what is the age of the child. If the mental picture is that of a 17 year old child being carried on the shoulder of his mother, being physically placed in the bush, crying like a baby, mother having to give him water to drink, than the Islamic viewpoint is null and void.
I have shown the passage of Genesis 21 to my two elder children of good reading ages now and without influencing them asked them what mental picture they got about the age of Ishmael in that passage and they thought he was about 5 years old. I have also tried the same thing with my work colleagues some of whom are qualified with PhD’s and have the ENGLISH language as their mother tongue and they also said they thought Ishmael was 5 years or younger because some of them stated by themselves that there was no verbal interaction between mother and child. I.e. If Ishmael is not of talking age then he must be less than a year old.
GENESIS: 21:14 - 21
So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the child, and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-Sheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she cast the child under one of the bushes. Then she went, and sat down over against him a good way off, about the distance of a bowshot; for she said, “Let me not look upon the death of the child.” And as she sat over against him, the child lifted up his voice and wept. And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is. Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation.” Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the lad a drink. And God was with the lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. He lived in the wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.
AS THE DESCRIPTION OF ISHMAEL IN GENESIS 21:14-21 IS THAT OF AN INFANT IT CAN BE ASSUMED SOMEONE HAS MOVED THIS PASSAGE FROM AN EARLIER PART OF SCRIPTURE!!! AND HAVE GOT THERE KNICKERS IN A TWIST.
For background info on the future religion of mankind see the following websites:
http://www.al-sunnah.com/muhammad_in_the_bible.htm (MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE)
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/MB_BQS/default.htm (Quran and Science)
http://www.harunyahya.com/
http://www.barnabas.net/
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
http://www.islamicity.com/
http://www.islamonline.net/english/index.shtml
http://www.islamalways.com/
HOLY QURAN CHAPTER 37 verses 101 - 122
101. So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear.
102. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: Now see what is thy view!" (The son) said: "O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if Allah so wills one practising Patience and Constancy!"
103. So when they had both submitted their wills (to Allah., and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice),
104. We called out to him "O Abraham!
105. "Thou hast already fulfilled the vision!" - thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
106. For this was obviously a trial-
107. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice:
108. And We left (this blessing) for him among generations (to come) in later times:
109. "Peace and salutation to Abraham!"
110. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
111. For he was one of our believing Servants.
112. And We gave him the good news of Isaac - a prophet,- one of the Righteous.
113. We blessed him and Isaac: but of their progeny are (some) that do right, and (some) that obviously do wrong, to their own souls.
114. Again (of old) We bestowed Our favour on Moses and Aaron,
115. And We delivered them and their people from (their) Great Calamity;
116. And We helped them, so they overcame (their troubles);
117. And We gave them the Book which helps to make things clear;
118. And We guided them to the Straight Way.
119. And We left (this blessing) for them among generations (to come) in later times:
120. "Peace and salutation to Moses and Aaron!"
121. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
122. For they were two of our believing Servants.
ISHMAEL IS THE FIRST BORN AND GOOD NEWS OF ISSAC DOES NOT APPEAR UNTIL AFTER THE SACRIFICE?????
THEREFORE THE CLAIM THAT GOD GAVE THE LAND TO ISRAEL IS DESTROYED WITHOUT THE NEED OF ANY WMD’s.
Amazing so Hagar in Genesis 21:14 – 21 was carrying a 17 year old on her one shoulder for maybe 10 – 100 miles (Mrs. Swarzniggar) who later grew up to become an archer, married into an Arab tribe and learned Arabic and went onto have several children. One of the descendants of this CHILD passed on his DNA to Muhammad the illiterate whose religion is now violently spreading by the sword and soon to overtake the whole planet.
How could this happen like you I am also confused.
The oil found in recent history belongs to the west, its unfortunate it is under lands inhabited by Muslims and not only Arabs. Having oil and economic success then to die and go to hell is not my idea of a great nation.
A brief lesson on Islam.
It is the oldest faith on the planet it starts of with Adam and Eve, and continuous through revelations given to Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus (many others too numerous to mention) until its completion under the messenger ship of Muhammad (pbuta). Islam is not an exclusively an Arab faith as there is no scriptural evidence that Muhammad (pbuh) said that he is the founder of Islam. One cannot quote the Quran as it is not the work of Muhammad as he could not read or write in any language including Arabic. Just as Jesus has himself not ever said that he is the founder of Christianity or Moses has not stated that he is the founder of Judaism.
ISIAH 29 verse 12 "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned".
Below are verses from the Quran, where GOD/SATAN himself says that the scriptures were changed by the scribes.
Quran Chapter 2 verse 75
75. Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it.
Quran Chapter 2 verse 79
79. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.
Quran Chapter 4 verse 46
46. Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places, and say: "We hear and we disobey"; and "Hear what is not Heard"; and "Ra'ina"; with a twist of their tongues and a slander to Faith. If only they had said: "What hear and we obey"; and "Do hear"; and "Do look at us"; it would have been better for them, and more proper; but Allah hath cursed them for their Unbelief; and but few of them will believe.
Quran Chapter 2 verse 40 - 83
40. O Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and fulfil your covenant with Me as I fulfil My Covenant with you, and fear none but Me.
41. And believe in what I reveal, confirming the revelation which is with you, and be not the first to reject Faith therein, nor sell My Signs for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone.
42. And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).
43. And be steadfast in prayer; practise regular charity; and bow down your heads with those who bow down (in worship).
44. Do ye enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (To practise it) yourselves, and yet ye study the Scripture? Will ye not understand?
45. Nay, seek ((Allah)'s) help with patient perseverance and prayer: It is indeed hard, except to those who bring a lowly spirit,-
46. Who bear in mind the certainty that they are to meet their Lord, and that they are to return to Him.
47. Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and that I preferred you to all other (for My Message).
48. Then guard yourselves against a day when one soul shall not avail another nor shall intercession be accepted for her, nor shall compensation be taken from her, nor shall anyone be helped (from outside).
49. And remember, We delivered you from the people of Pharaoh: They set you hard tasks and punishments, slaughtered your sons and let your women-folk live; therein was a tremendous trial from your Lord.
50. And remember We divided the sea for you and saved you and drowned Pharaoh's people within your very sight.
51. And remember We appointed forty nights for Moses, and in his absence ye took the calf (for worship), and ye did grievous wrong.
52. Even then We did forgive you; there was a chance for you to be grateful.
53. And remember We gave Moses the Scripture and the Criterion (Between right and wrong): There was a chance for you to be guided aright.
54. And remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Ye have indeed wronged yourselves by your worship of the calf: So turn (in repentance) to your Maker, and slay yourselves (the wrong-doers); that will be better for you in the sight of your Maker." Then He turned towards you (in forgiveness): For He is Oft- Returning, Most Merciful.
55. And remember ye said: "O Moses! We shall never believe in thee until we see Allah manifestly," but ye were dazed with thunder and lighting even as ye looked on.
56. Then We raised you up after your death: Ye had the chance to be grateful.
57. And We gave you the shade of clouds and sent down to you Manna and quails, saying: "Eat of the good things We have provided for you:" (But they rebelled); to us they did no harm, but they harmed their own souls.
58. And remember We said: "Enter this town, and eat of the plenty therein as ye wish; but enter the gate with humility, in posture and in words, and We shall forgive you your faults and increase (the portion of) those who do good."
59. But the transgressors changed the word from that which had been given them; so We sent on the transgressors a plague from heaven, for that they infringed (Our command) repeatedly.
60. And remember Moses prayed for water for his people; We said: "Strike the rock with thy staff." Then gushed forth therefrom twelve springs. Each group knew its own place for water. So eat and drink of the sustenance provided by Allah, and do no evil nor mischief on the (face of the) earth.
61. And remember ye said: "O Moses! we cannot endure one kind of food (always); so beseech thy Lord for us to produce for us of what the earth groweth, -its pot-herbs, and cucumbers, Its garlic, lentils, and onions." He said: "Will ye exchange the better for the worse? Go ye down to any town, and ye shall find what ye want!" They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah. This because they went on rejecting the Signs of Allah and slaying His Messengers without just cause. This because they rebelled and went on transgressing.
62. Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
63. And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai) : (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear Allah."
64. But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah to you, ye had surely been among the lost.
65. And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."
66. So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.
67. And remember Moses said to his people: "(Allah) commands that ye sacrifice a heifer." They said: "Makest thou a laughing-stock of us?" He said: "(Allah) save me from being an ignorant (fool)!"
68. They said: "Beseech on our behalf Thy Lord to make plain to us what (heifer) it is!" He said; "He says: The heifer should be neither too old nor too young, but of middling age. Now do what ye are commanded!"
69. They said: "Beseech on our behalf Thy Lord to make plain to us Her colour." He said: "He says: A fawn-coloured heifer, pure and rich in tone, the admiration of beholders!"
70. They said: "Beseech on our behalf Thy Lord to make plain to us what she is: To us are all heifers alike: We wish indeed for guidance, if Allah wills."
71. He said: "He says: A heifer not trained to till the soil or water the fields; sound and without blemish." They said: "Now hast thou brought the truth." Then they offered her in sacrifice, but not with good-will.
72. Remember ye slew a man and fell into a dispute among yourselves as to the crime: But Allah was to bring forth what ye did hide.
73. So We said: "Strike the (body) with a piece of the (heifer)." Thus Allah bringeth the dead to life and showeth you His Signs: Perchance ye may understand.
74. Thenceforth were your hearts hardened: They became like a rock and even worse in hardness. For among rocks there are some from which rivers gush forth; others there are which when split asunder send forth water; and others which sink for fear of Allah. And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.
75. Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it.
76. Behold! when they meet the men of Faith, they say: "We believe": But when they meet each other in private, they say: "Shall you tell them what Allah hath revealed to you, that they may engage you in argument about it before your Lord?"- Do ye not understand (their aim)?
77. Know they not that Allah knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal?
78. And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book, but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture.
79. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.
80. And they say: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a few numbered days:" Say: "Have ye taken a promise from Allah, for He never breaks His promise? or is it that ye say of Allah what ye do not know?"
81. Nay, those who seek gain in evil, and are girt round by their sins,- they are companions of the Fire: Therein shall they abide (For ever).
82. But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the Garden: Therein shall they abide (For ever).
83. And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but Allah. treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise regular charity. Then did ye turn back, except a few among you, and ye backslide (even now).
Jesus in the Glorious Qur'an
The Qur’an tells us a lot of wonderful things about Jesus. As a result, believers in the Qur’an love Jesus, honour him, and believe in him. In fact, no Muslim can be a Muslim unless he or she believes in Jesus, on whom be peace.
The Qur’an says that Jesus was born of a virgin, that he spoke while he was still only a baby, that he healed the blind and the leper by God’s leave, and that he raised the dead by God’s leave.
What then is the significance of these miracles? First, the virgin birth. God demonstrates his power to create in every way. God created everyone we know from a man and a woman. But how about Adam, on whom be peace? God created him from neither a man nor a woman. And Eve from only a man, but not a woman. And, finally, to complete the picture, God created Jesus from a woman, but not a man.
What about the other miracles? These were to show that Jesus was not acting on his own behalf, but that he was backed by God. The Qur’an specifies that these miracles were performed by God’s leave. This may be compared to the Book of Acts in the Bible, chapter 2, verse 22, where it says that the miracles were done by God to show that he approved of Jesus. Also, note that Jesus himself is recorded in the Gospel of John to have said, “I can do nothing of my own authority” (5:30). The miracles, therefore, were done not by his own authority, but by God’s authority.
What did Jesus teach? The Qur’an tells us that Jesus came to teach the same basic message which was taught by previous prophets from God—that we must shun every false god and worship only the one true God. Jesus taught that he is the servant and messenger of that one true God, the God of Abraham. These Quranic teachings can be compared with the Bible ( Mark 10:18; Matthew 26:39; John 14:28, 17:3, and 20:17) where Jesus teaches that the one he worshipped is the only true God. See also Matthew 12:18; Acts 3:13, and 4:27 where we find that his disciples knew him as Servant of God.
The Qur’an tells us that some of the Israelites rejected Jesus, and conspired to kill him, but Allah (God) rescued Jesus and raised him to Himself. Allah will cause Jesus to descend again, at which time Jesus will confirm his true teachings and everyone will believe in him as he is and as the Qur’an teaches about him.
Jesus is the Messiah. He is a word from Allah, and a spirit from Him. He is honoured in this world and in the hereafter, and he is one of those brought nearest to Allah.
Jesus was a man who spoke the truth which he heard from God. This can be compared with the Gospel According to John where Jesus says to the Israelites: “You are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God” (John 8:40).
The Virgin Birth of Jesus
Muslims believe in the virgin birth of Jesus. When the angels announced to Mary (peace be upon her) about Allah’s promise that she will have a son, she was surprised, since she was a virgin. “How can this be?” she thought. She was reminded that it is easy for Allah to create whatever he wills.
She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So (it will be). Allah createth what He will. If He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is (Qur’an 3:47).
It is not difficult for Allah to do anything he wants. He can create a child with both human parents or only one. No miracle is beyond His power. After all, He had created Adam (peace be upon him) from neither a man nor a woman. He created the rest of us from both man and woman. What is so hard if Allah decides to create a human being from a woman only? He only commands “Be!” and it occurs.
Some people think that since Jesus, peace be upon him, had no human father then God must be his father. The Qur’an rejects this view. The position of Jesus with Allah is comparable to the position of Adam with Allah. Just because Adam had no human parent does not mean we should call him the Son of God.
Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is. (Qur’an 3:59).
According to the Qur’an, everyone except Allah are His servants.
And they say: the Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a Son. Assuredly ye utter a disastrous thing, whereby almost the heavens are torn, and the earth is split asunder and the mountains fall to ruins, that ye ascribe to the Beneficent a son, when it is not meet for (the Majesty of) the Beneficent that He should chose a son. There is none in the heavens and the earth but cometh unto the Beneficent as a slave. (Qur’an 19:88-93)
The Miracles of Jesus
According to the Qur’an, Jesus, on whom be peace, performed the following miracles by Allah’s leave:
1. Spoke while he was only a baby.
2. Healed those born blind.
3. Healed the lepers.
4. Revived the dead.
5. Breathed life into a bird made of clay.
In the Qur’an Allah quotes Jesus, peace be upon him, as saying:
Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird by Allah’s leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah’s leave. And I announce to you what you eat and what you store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you if you are to be believers.
And (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden unto you. I come unto you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me. Lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path. (Qur’an 3: 49-51).
Again, in the Qur’an Allah tells us about the situation on the Day of Judgement:
In the day when Allah gathers together the messengers and says: What was your response (from mankind)? they say: We have no knowledge. Lo! Thou, only Thou art the Knower of Things Hidden.
When Allah says: O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour unto you and unto your mother; how I strengthened you with the holy Spirit, so that you spoke unto mankind in the cradle as in maturity; and how I taught you the Scripture and Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and how you did shape of clay as it were the likeness of a bird by My permission, and did blow upon it and it was a bird by My permission, and you did heal him who was born blind and the leper by My permission . . . (Qur’an 5:109-110)
Not all of these miracles are recorded in the canonical gospels, the four gospels contained in the Christian Bible.
The fact that Jesus spoke while he was yet a baby is not written anywhere in the Bible. This should not be surprising, because none of the Gospels can claim to recover every single event in the life of Jesus. Instead, the gospel According to John seeks to emphasize that the events were too many to record.
Similarly, the miracle of breathing life into a bird made of clay is not attested by the Christian Bible. This too should not make us wonder. It is obvious that the writers of the gospels could write down only the tradition that was available to them. Furthermore, they could not write down everything they knew about Jesus for they were writing on papyrus material that were very limited in length.
What is worthy to notice here is that the Prophet Muhammad, may peace and the blessings of Allah be upon him, was honest enough to promulgate this information about Jesus. The religion taught by God through Muhammad would deny the divinity of Jesus. Any human being, therefore, who wished to deny the divinity of Jesus would have tried to belittle Jesus. Since Christians looked upon the miracles of Jesus as a proof of his divinity, we might expect that any human being who tries to deny the divinity of Jesus would not have informed people of miracles not previously known to them. He might have even tried to deny some of the miracles recorded in the canonical gospels. On the other hand, the prophet Muhammad honestly conveyed the message delivered to him from Allah. (May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.)
Allah tells us the truth without fear. Human beings trying to win followers tell us only what is conducive to winning us over. They usually withhold information that could lead to opposite conclusions. On the other hand, Allah informs us about the miracles of Jesus even if people use this information to support their prior commitment to the doctrine of the divinity of Jesus. Allah does not need to win worshippers. Those who worship Allah does so for their own good. And those who worship false gods do so to their own detriment.
What Allah emphasizes, though, is that the miracles of Jesus do not prove he was divine. The miracles he performed were a sign, a proof, that he was God’s messenger. He performed them with God’s help and permission. Those who use his miracles as proof of his divinity would choose to forget the following sayings of Jesus:
I can of my own authority do nothing. (John 5:30)
They also forget the declaration of Peter:
Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves know. (Acts 2:22 KJV).
These passages suggest that Jesus did not do miracles on his own. These, rather were accomplished by God’s leave. Allah reminds us of this. Jesus also constantly repeated to his audience that the miracles he performed were by God’s leave.
good morning dark wraith:
the essential concept the blackdog is missing, if i may, is that for effective commerce, for a company line to be drawn, there must be freedom. ask your brother dog about cortez in mexico. yes, he had 16 to 20 warhorses which were formidable, he also had crude muskets and cannon. the thing he had which served him best, which the natives did not have was a free market in vera cruz. word was out, there was money to be made by supplying cortez and his men through the port and the merchants came loaded to the gunnels. before the war in iraq started i suggested to many friends that we should have sent our true military geniuses there, general mills, colonel sanders, and their cohorts. after all, colonel sanders occupied both hanoi and bejing, something neither westmorland or even the bold macarthur could accomplish.
i will second the wraith's stand on war. i have no problem with war as a concept or a sometimes neccessary part of the human existence. i did three tours of viet nam which means that two of my years there were because that was where i wanted to be. i am a libertarian enough that my idea of tort reform would be to bring back dueling with edged weapons. i have killed men and felt better after the deed. the twisting of fact to suit a predetermined policy (remember the "intelligence is being fixed around policy" phrase from the downing street memo ya'll?), the casual risking of lives for the obscene profit of a chosen few. the mindless, headlong rush into war by those who have no. fucking. idea. what. war. means. is both maddening and sorrowing to me. free commerce is not a bad foundation for a nation. there must be, however, some restraint and control on commerce and trade to keep the playing ground level and the conduct of the players within the boundries of decency. thinkers from aristotle to the late john kenneth galbraith have seen that clearly. president carter tried mightily to put U.S. foreign policy on a more moral course. he was striving to end our dependence on third world brutes while at the same time repairing the damage done to the economy by a long, fruitless war fought on credit cards, and the same usurpation of power and influence by Big Business that T. Roosevelt, Wilson, and Eisenhower all tried to warn us about. look where decency and moral rectitude got him.
i sincerely hope that history will be a calmer and more approving judge of mr. carter than we were.
Forgetting my manners, good afternoon Oh Dark Wraith. Excellent post, and now I have to say to the commentor above, who is that masked man? It will take me hours to digest this, the name is interesting though. Blackdog now travels to Hazen in search of mead, so that his intellectual abilities will last for awhile. If not his spelling, but what does anyone really expect from a blackdog? I commented over at the blondesense site that this is a must read, and even more now, I believe it is. I liked the use of the word peace. Something not frequently used around my neck of the woods, Peace to all here.
I don't think I understand your drift, Stephen. Freedom is an elusive animal, it means little to me. A relative term used to promote exactly the errors we are talking about. Not that I really disagree with you, but in the actual attempt to think one of us is, or both are missing the connection, it may be me. While I have never been in an environment where I had the opportunity to slit someone's throat, it's not like I couldn't do it. But I would most certainly end up in jail with a life or worse sentence.As a nation we seem to lack the ability to follow the constitution, to call a war a war, and to allow a lawful congress to declare it. I hate that we send troops into situations where there is no conclusion for a lifetime and expect citizens to abide by the decision or be branded as less than citizens. That really makes me want to get out the sharp edge, and I do know how to use it. For your service in Vietnam I salute you, I was just barely too young to have to go. But I am terribly sorry that we as a nation sent you there. What a screwup. And we keep doing them. I could give a shit about what form of government another nation has. I prefer to be more concerned with my own.
What is freedom? To be truly free, one must be able to do as one chooses whenever one chooses.
We aren’t free. We have (had) fewer constraints on us than other peoples. But that can and has changed.
While capitalism is indeed a good notion, application is too subjective. To get what a corporation desires for its own good, that corporation, or the leaders, will do whatever is necessary to achieve that end. Prime examples include Cheney and Lay and what they did for Halliburton and Enron and maybe more for themselves.
There were those of us that didn’t follow standard dogma in Viet Nam. Special groups that operated there irrespective of regular Army, are now being revealed. I’m sure that men like Stephen Benson and others know of what I speak. Some of us learned too late that our efforts not only weren’t rewarded or acknowledged but to this day aren’t spoken of.
I say this because a few of us fought our own war within a war. To be subjugated to a policy set forth by men who didn’t know better would have been disastrous to many of us. To that end, we fought as we needed. But our goal was never in question. Few believed at the time that we were involved in a fight for America’s defense or even for patriotism.
It doesn’t seem so different today. You will always have those who follow orders regardless of reason. These kinds revel in carrying out their “duties”. For what ever reasons or rationalizations, they feel compelled follow orders even though they know them to be wrong. In a twisted sense, I suppose it is a power or ego thing. The same seems true of American Capitalism.
When I grew up, I learned that my definition of supply and demand differs from today’s. I learned that if the supply went up, price came down. Today, a higher demand usually provides more supply, usually at lower manufacturing costs but the usurers do not pass that saving to the consumer. Why should they when they can gain more and more profit by keeping prices high? It’s capitalism at its best. But it isn’t the way business used to be. The Wal-Marts and K-Marts started this trend. The 80’s under Reagan extolled that greed is good. We were lulled to sleep by an old man that for some reason we thought of as a grandfather who would never lead us astray. We were wrong. The wealthy became wealthier and more powerful.
The succeeding generation of business now has fewer restraints and those that are still in place will be removed over a shorter period of time through that accumulated power. The greed snowball started rolling adding more and more to its mass. All we seem to be able do is get out of the way.
How much of my economics is correct I’m not sure. My point of this diatribe is that like the Dark Wraith and Stephen Benson, some of us also have requisite training in certain disciplines. The time may come when we have no choice but to utilize them. I and my unit learned to survive on our own. In retrospect had I listened to the inexperience leaders, I honestly believe that I wouldn’t be here to write these comments.
While this may make little or no sense to most people, I too, have learned a valuable lesson about the way this country runs and is run and who may decide how it will be run or whether I agree with their philosophy.
We are not as free as we were 6 years ago. Americans might be seeing that now; maybe too late. We must again fight to regain freedoms we had a short 6 years ago; to fight like Hell to get back to where we were; possibly to use any means necessary. Freedom isn’t just another word for nothing left to lose; there isn’t another word more important to fight for.
Father Tyme, a great read on your comment. Thanks. To all who have commented on this most important issue, Stephen, Tyme, and Ahmedinjad I offer my most grateful thanks for your efforts to try to enlighten me to the truth. I do not try to know what the truth is, but I do try to follow others in the search for it. I am lucky in some ways, I live in the house that my grandfather and grandmother died in, back when I was a squirt and granddad kept me going by giving me tube radios out of old cars. He used to call me an electrical lizard, as a joke. That I live in this house now so many years after their deaths is a cause for my concern, but in a way it is my opportunity to take advantage of what they had to offer me back then, now. And it was alot. I could tell stories that would make some hair stand up, and it had nothing to do with war, although my granddad did serve in WW1. He just wanted to not se history repeat itself, but it did. Two of his sons served in WW2 and amazingly met after VE day in the Phillipines. On my fathers side, one uncle was in France, another was in jail, and my dad, the youngest wanted desperatly to get into the fight. His older brother told him to get his shit together, you don't want to be here. He ended up an Air Force Dentist in Korea identifing corpses by their dental records.
So for those of you who have more than paid their dues, I salute you. Because of your service and the luck of the draw, I never had to. Not that I wouldn't.
But somewhere, somehow we have to get our foriegn policy right. For people.
Money and the power to do what ever you want to with it is worth fighting for; alas, those whom have it in liberal supply do have freedom. The pursuit of money and the power that comes with it dictates our everyday actions out there in the big ole world we live in.
Most people in the USA cannot fathom what it must be like to subsist day to day like perhaps the majority of people "over there" do. Can any of you DW bloggers claim this? Would you admit it? I would not. Don't get me wrong here; I'm not getting personal with the subject matter and I suspect most of you are not either. However, it helps to remember that the elitists among us have real power by virtue of their earnings. The same could be said about most "average" Americans, however entrenched in the credit-card lifestyle they happen to be. Using this power and freedom--money-- (gained mostly, or at least in part at someone else's expense) to make the case for "live and let live" becomes, at last, the height of hypocracy when you consider that if the shoe were on the other foot, most people what lie, cheat, steal (and maybe work really hard) to better their position in society. I'm rambling. But seriously, if the guys "over there" want to get with the program, they must overthrow the regimes controling their lives and times before the fruits of their labors will truly be realized, and that will unfortunately cost lives--not because we want it or they want it but because the controlling factions are making it happen.
Quotes from "Easy Rider"
George Hanson (Jack Nicholson):You know, this used to be a helluva good country. I can't understand what's gone wrong with it.
Billy (Dennis Hopper):Man, everybody got chicken, that's what happened. Hey, we can't even get into like, a second-rate hotel, I mean, a second-rate motel, you dig? They think we're gonna cut their throat or somethin'. They're scared, man.
George Hanson:They're not scared of you. They're scared of what you represent to 'em.
Billy:Hey, man. All we represent to them, man, is somebody who needs a haircut.
George Hanson:Oh, no. What you represent to them is freedom.
Billy:What the hell is wrong with freedom? That's what it's all about.
George Hanson:Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what's it's all about, all right. But talkin' about it and bein' it, that's two different things. I mean, it's real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. Of course, don't ever tell anybody that they're not free, 'cause then they're gonna get real busy killin' and maimin' to prove to you that they are. Oh, yeah, they're gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom. But they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em.
Billy:Well, it don't make 'em runnin' scared.
George Hanson:No, it makes 'em dangerous.
Good Evening, Dark Wraith,
the Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away.
Sorry to leave so soon but I have a black-tie engagement at the Man-Whore Awards tongiht.
tongiht. sounds like some kind of nazi mantra.
The word "eclectic" doesn't even begin to cover the gathering at this blog.
The Dark Wraith is sometimes at a loss for expressive insight into the meaning of that phenomenon.
Believe me Dark Wraith, I understand, why do you think I keep returning?
I have been seduced. But I must fight it nonetheless.
But wait, I saw the word "heifer" and the name "Dennis Hopper" here. Good Lord, what are you people trying to do, rip my fuckin' brains out? :-)
YEAH!
I'll leave you with this.
It pays to probe.
You're mistaken, konagod. The last reference to heifer was quite a long time back, and it was in the context of some calf being born in the Holy Land that was prophesied to foretell the imminent arrival of the End Time.
So far, no End Time, which means I have to prepare lecture notes for Monday's classes after all.
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Me?! Use lecture notes?!!
The Dark Wraith just made a very funny.
PoLT,
The really ironic part of your comment about "Easy Rider" is that Dennis Hopper is such a Right Winger.
Maybe the end IS coming!
And DW,
Eclectic? I looked it up and this is what I found...
"Your host of this Weblog is a college teacher and writer who specializes in economics, finance, mathematics, business administration, computer hardware and software skills, and English grammar and composition."
I havent seen a mix of intelectuality(?) like this anywhere else. You've got some high class commenters here, present company sadly excluded, and it's truly enlightening to stop by.
Eclectic? This is the "Cheers" of blogs...and I love it!
N O R M !!!!
Intellectuality....hmmmm. Not much room for flighty emotion in that word.
Shall we now turn our backs on what was, what is and what shall be forever more--human conquest--or shall we embrace anew our commitment to capitalism?
I have no committment to capitalism, as such. I think any economic scheme will run amok unless tightly regulated with laws that prevent corruption and support the access of those not already wealthy to the engines of prosperity.
That we have abandoned those regulations that protected our society is the seed of this current war. Putting those engines of prosperity back into the harness that they've so recently outgrown may be impossible, but it's worth a try.
"I have no committment to capitalism, as such. I think any economic scheme will run amok unless tightly regulated with laws that prevent corruption and support the access of those not already wealthy to the engines of prosperity."
I agree with you but there just aint no perfect economical system now is there?
"That we have abandoned those regulations that protected our society is the seed of this current war. Putting those engines of prosperity back into the harness that they've so recently outgrown may be impossible, but it's worth a try."
Quite contrary to what you said, the facts will prove that the regulation of resources is the prime objective of this "hydrocarbon war." A lot of people, myself included, feel that it would be a foolish interprise to make a crazy dash for the oil in the middle east: not only does it seem somewhat stupid to risk uniting 10 billion Muslims against us abroad, somewhere between 5 and 15% of our GNP is controled by those people. The word suicide comes to mind....bbbrrrrrrrrr.
WoW! Now I must go ALL the way back to the beginning and read this again. Father Tyme, I agree with your "Cheers" similarities here at the Dark Wraith Forums --- The Dark One gives us all a reason for living and he definitely keeps them coming....
I shall return soon for another!
good afternoon dark wraith and friends: my, my, this is an eclectic bunch. aside to father tyme: yes, indeed i know the war within the war and the shadow ops world well, it was the world i operated in. i sometimes wonder what my fate would have been had i elected to remain among the regulars. i probably would have spoken my mind at the wrong time and been slapped down hard. or i might, more likely though, have just melted into the bulkheads and done my time quietly and then moved on. as it turned out, special ops not only allowed me to exercise autonomy and initiative, it allowed me to flourish. i would have been a lifer if i had not had a severe leg injury. i was given the option of medical retirement and i opted out after 8 years. the point i was trying to make about freedom often comes down to the perception of freedom. back to cortez; after the events of la noche triste where his forces were almost annihilated, among the first acts of cortez was to convene a council of his officers and men. free expression, free exchange of ideas and opinions was the rule here. that was something the mexica society could not fathom. the first time cortez and his men ran out of gunpowder they were able to buy it through the port of vera cruz. beyond that, they had identified deposits of sulfer, sodium nitrate and there was ample forest for charcoal and they not only began to formulate their own, they began to monkey with the proportions in the hope of improving it. again, this was not something that the court of montezuma where learning and science were rigidly controlled was capable of doing. the men with cortez all held a personal stake in the adventure, both socially and financially (although the two positions were often closely related in the spain of that era). they felt free to speak their minds without reprisal. i agree that some measure of government control is neccessary, some degree of regulation is neccessary. the restraint that is not in some of us must be imposed from the outside. i am a supporter of and believer in freedom, with adequate limits both social and governmental. i would not like to live in an anarchy.
Good evening to all of you. I ask your forgiveness for my absence today. I took upon myself a few minor (or what I thought would be minor) blog coding tasks and found myself obsessively engaged in coding that turned out to be a lot like work.
One of the things I did was to finally upgrade the forum feedback form by which you can send me messages without having to use your own e-mail. The form link is in the sidebar. As those of you who had used it before might note, the architecture I had been using was an old, so-called "WWW form," which is pretty antiquated these days. I rebuilt the entire thing using php, a language I really don't like, but one that's becoming awfully popular. The form, itself, now has a more modern look and functionality to it; so if you're in the mood to send me a message (no spam, please, unless it's the edible kind), feel free to give that form a test drive.
The other thing I did was not really coding, per se; it was more investigative. Although I generally don't look at the details of visitor traffic, I had become really curious about shadows passing through: visitors that seem to come from nowhere and leave to nowhere. Shadows have become substantially more common recently here at The Dark Wraith Forums. You see, it used to be that the overwhelming majority of the traffic here came from links at other blogs: mentions of articles here or just random hits to the blogrolls of blogs that include The Dark Wraith Forums. Lately, though, those are becoming rather less common compared to visitors that come from no obvious link source, so I was curious about how they're getting here.
Well, I found three notable sources. One, which I rather suspected and hoped for, is people coming from their own browser "Favorites" listing of The Dark Wraith Forums. That's very cool.
The second is from collection databases, principally those associated with RSS uptakes. That explains the massive bandwidth chewed here. It also explains why I'm terribly ambivalent about so-called "Net Neutrality" since huge, high traffic blogs running through places like Google's Blogger server suck ungodly—simply staggering—bandwidth for free since Google gets it for free (well, almost for free, anyway), while those of us who run through private servers pay directly for every byte of bandwidth we use.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you—not yet, anyway; but bandwidth pull has been growing as an issue for more than a couple of years now, and it's well past the point where the Internet is what in economics we call a "public good," something for which the cost of one more user is essentially zero. While things like radio stations, national defense, roads, and national parks are most decidedly public goods (it doesn't cost any more for one more person to use them), the Internet is getting into the realm of the phenomenon of public goods called "congestion," which is when the cost of one more user goes from next to nothing all the way into the stratosphere. With roads, this phenomenon is called a "traffic jam"; with the Internet, it will be called "bandwidth limits," and the result will be rationing, one way or the other: either the government or some quasi-government authority will have to start allocating bandwidth by some needs or other basis, or the disappearance of the public goods aspect of the service will have to yield to some market force to price the bandwidth so the demand is thereby abated. That, of course, is what happens right now with private Website hosting: the price of more bandwidth represents, at least to a certain extent, the marginal (and positive) cost of the Website's draw. It also, to a certain extent, includes the cost of supporting the bandwidth pull of monster sites like Google, which aren't paying for it.
I do have some ideas about how to maintain the wide availability of this wonderfully democratic medium in a post-neutrality world, but I could make such suggestions only in an environment conducive to such a discussion. Right now, the giant telecoms are just drooling over the prospect of getting their grubby mitts on the privatization so they can be the ones to add their own margins to the cost basis and make ungodly profits as a global cartel. That's no better as a solution than letting the whole darned Internet collapse into a bandwidth-congested heap as far as I'm concerned.
Maybe I'll stick my neck out one of these days and offer some solutions.
Maybe not. I should know better than to offer suggestions when nobody really wants them or would in a million years implement them.
Oh—and getting back to the sources of shadows coming to the blog—the third source is the ever-interesting stealth prowlers using strong masks to cover their tracks. There aren't many of them, and most of those that do this use pretty lame stuff; but a few are high-end stealth travelers doing things that make it close to impossible to track them down without a major commitment of time and resources. I might get curious enough to do some walk-backs someday soon, but tonight, I'm in a good frame of mind considering I actually got the new form for sending messages nearly perfected... I think... or at least, I hope.
Lordie! but life was so much easier back when "computing" meant reaching for your slide rule.
The Dark Wraith thinks maybe those slide rules might come back into vogue one of these days.
"The Dark Wraith thinks maybe those slide rules might come back into vogue one of these days."
PoLT was under the impression that the days of "sly drools" had already returned, but perhaps I've been watching the financial channels on TV too much lately.
Good Day, Dark Wraith,
I had become really curious about shadows passing through: visitors that seem to come from nowhere and leave to nowhere.
Perhaps that was me, in one of my late evening higher states of being. In the future, I'll endeavor to leave some kind of trail, be it cheeseburger poop, coffee grounds, or whatever.
Good afternoon. Suffer me here the reprinting of the comment thread from the cross-post at the Big Brass Blog of this article. The thread discussing is a bit contentious, but that's mostly because I came on fairly strong in response to several commenters' words.
It all began with a fairly benign (if vaguely condescending in its opening line, but that might be just me over-reacting) comment; and it became rather the long-winded rant from there. Agree or disagree with their statements or mine, it was a pretty good exchange considering it didn't occur here at the hub of good exchanges, so I thought I'd share it with those of you who don't frequent the Big Brass Blog.
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Dark wraith, you do get wound up. A minor point: "only the malevolent aggressor nation changes the world by such means". (war) You may want to consider that violence does not change anything save the temporary balance of power. Meaningful change is always the result of discarding myths and rituals that no longer suffice for new ones. That is why violent revolutions, wars, repression, etc. uniformly fail. It is also why the police state cannot survive. McDonald's franchises are more powerful than the pentagon's franchises.
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Good morning, dustnashes. Thank you for commenting.
The Third Reich was responsible for the annihilation of millions of individuals and the significant depletion of the people of a single religion. The wars visited by European nations' version of Fascism upon the world of the 20th Century did materially and permanently transform the landscape of that and following centuries.
That we as a nation conceive war as transformative should deeply trouble us, particularly if we cause one that actually does alter the course of human history, for in such an event we shall have joined the ranks of other malevolent nations whose solutions also involve wars and are also successful in changing the world.
We can, as you note, effect transformative change; but unless we really are the kinds of monsters we repudiate so vehemently, we can do so only through means other than military violence.
In that way, let us hope that our military adventures in the Middle East and Asia Minor fail, for we shall then know that we really are not a nation for which war actually works.
The Dark Wraith does not, however, particularly care for the deaths we will cause in learning of our true nature.
♠Dark Wraith♠ | Homepage | 06.11.06 - 11:39 am | #
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Couple of points regarding your comment:
Yes, I agree, the military/industrial complex had a nightmare on their hands after the Berlin wall fell: Who would they demonize as the new boogieman?
You state " We let our gaurd down..." Really? How so? I could detect no measureable decrease in Defense spending, not any measureable reduction in American military dominance since that period, so what are you specifically stating?
Oh, I see, there were "Forces anathema to our way of life still out there..."
Hogwash.
Odd too, how you seem to favor Reagan's running up more debt than all the presidents preceeding him, (as Bush has now also accomplished, to America's real financial peril), by praising him for withdrawing from Lebenon when attacked. I'd point out we shouldn't have been there in the first damn place.
No wonder they "hate out freedoms": We aid their oppressor. No? Who started the Iran is a menace" meme 6 months ago?
Israeli military.
"hate our freedoms." yeah, right.
More like: Go Home, Yankee.
Just like you would do if invaded.
farang | 06.12.06 - 5:45 am | #
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Good morning, farang, and thank you for joining this conversation. I will apologize in advance for what follows to the extent that I state my case in the matters at hand without due concern for the value of understatement. In my more reflective or even discursive mode, I would not be quite so blunt.
Let's start with your challenge to my assertion that we let our guard down. The neo-conservatives of the Bush Administration functioned from a prior set of assumptions about how they wanted to reconstruct the world. This was vividly clear in documents set forth by the Project for the New American Century. The obsession with their vision of some grand re-ordering of the world stage was precisely the framework in which a watchful eye on the actual world could not be pursued. This is why Richard Clarke's memo more than a month before the September 11 attacks was dismissed. Our newly-elected leadership simply could not see anything that did not comport with its prior, narrow, and parochial model of what the world was really like.
The proof is right there in front of you: count the number of successfully, massively, catastrophically destructive attacks on the continental United States before the Bush Administration. How many do you get?
Now, what happened once the neo-conservatives were in power?
How can you possibly question my assertion that our guard went down? Do you subscribe to Bush's craven claim that somehow the whole world suddenly turned against us overnight? Here's a clue: there were parts of the world against us for decades, but those interest that wanted to damage us never got through, and that was because we were vigilant. Perhaps in your world, that means nothing, but in the world of real, live enemies, it really does mean something.
t of people and places of this and the last century. I will spend my life condemning my own for our great and persistent failures to live to our ideals; but I will mince no words when it comes to dismissing our ideals. That's just as bad as George W. Bush spewing his rot about "American values": neither Bush nor those who dismiss the concept of what we really want to be have anything to contribute to getting from where we are to where we should be.
George W. Bush failed in that duty; and in the bizarre world of the 21st Century, he was allowed not only to get by with that failure, but to compound it with irrelevant and violent foreign and domestic policy shifts that have taken us even further from safety in our land.
And before I go on, let me jump right at what seemed to be a sneer about our way of life. Whether or not in any generation we achieve our ideals, they are one Hell of a lot better than those of crazed Iranian and Talib mullahs who hang gay teenagers and chop off body parts of petty thieves; they are one Hell of a lot better than those of Chinese Communists who shoot thousands of naïve kids demonstrating for democracy and then spend the next century trying to keep any one of their billion citizens from even so much as reading about it; they are a Hell of a lot better than those of Serbian warlords who marched from town to town and dragged the men and boys out to fields to mow them down with automatic weapons; they are a Hell of a lot better than those of Khmere Rouge monsters who couldn't spare the bullets so they hacked a million people to death; they are a Hell of a lot better than those of roving bands of military rapists roving huge swaths of Africa; they are a Hell of a lot better than those of a whole lot of people and places of this and the last century. I will spend my life condemning my own for our great and persistent failures to live to our ideals; but I will mince no words when it comes to dismissing our ideals. That's just as bad as George W. Bush spewing his rot about "American values": neither Bush nor those who dismiss the concept of what we really want to be have anything to contribute to getting from where we are to where we should be.
Now, let's get down to knee-jerks about former Presidents. Would you like me to click off the outrages of the Reagan years? Well, I can; and I can probably do it a whole lot better than you can. I got my face bloodied demonstrating against that pig. I watched my world, my country, my own countrymen turn to the worst of venal, mean, and hateful spirit because of his aw-shucks racism and intolerance.
But that does not mean I am blind to objectivist analysis. I shall leave to the "Hey-hey, ho-ho, fascists all must go" crowd the refusal to use the past in all its failures and its successes to inform me of right versus wrong policy actions.
The spitting hatred the Right and some on the Left have for Bill Clinton is the death-knell of any value their own contributions have to a constructive future.
Will there be anything positive to come from the administration of George W. Bush? Yes, of course there will be; but in Mr. Bush's case, it will be wholly unintended good: after his time (and provided we live through this era intact), we shall have a renaissance of progressivism in reaction. It will be muted compared to what happened in the social culture of the 1970s, but it will come. As far as the neo-cons' intentional policies, I cannot see any good coming out of them, so I won't waste my time looking too hard.
And I'll tell you this right now, farang: having lived through the likes of Johnson, Nixon, and Reagan, I'd take any one of those men in a hearbeat over George W. Bush, and I'd take any one of the eras in which each of those men was President over this grim time. Spare me the demand that I get with some program to dance to the political script of blanket, wholesale repudiation. Mark my word, farang: the long-term consequences of Iraq and Afghanistan are going to make Vietnam look by comparison like the pre-planning for a picnic for the United States. Our pale and soon-to-come rebirth of progressivism notwithstanding, this time we get to see Hell on the long-play, wide-screen format for the rest of our lives and those of our children.
That post-neo-conservative renaissance of which I spoke above?—yes, it will be kind of refreshing, but it won't be any kind of cure-all because we're going to live in a world our leaders have made far, far more dangerous at the same time we live in a nation far, far less capable of taking care of its own people.
But the way out of Hell is not paved with bricks of extremism of any stripe: all of that has to be put in the backdrop where it informs but does not guide the reasoned, careful, and knowledgeable policy that cares enough about the world to give its own citizens freedom of thought and action at the same time it grants to the world freedom from fear of our bombs and zealots.
The Dark Wraith has spoken.
Hi Dark Wraith,
did you hear? PNAC is shutting down citing "mission accomplished".
It seems even they can't stand the label NeoCon any more.
What do you think they will incarnate as next? What will they call themselves now since NeoCon has become psynominous with evil?
Good evening, PoliShifter.
Actually, a couple of hours ago, I put your blog article about it over in my "The Dark Wraith Recommends" sidebar feature.
I'll tell you right now, PoliShifter, that I smell something really fishy going on here. I don't know enough yet to venture into writing about it, but I have two very different rumors about the real reason those hoe-handles at PNAC closed up their little shop of horrors.
Something's going on. No one declares victory and with that declaration dumps a cash cow that keeps its milkers in high profile.
Like I said, something's going on, but I have no idea which of the two plausible rumors, if either, is even close to the truth.
(One of the rumors, by the way, is so juicy I just can't stand it.)
The Dark Wraith needs to stop playing on the fringes of being some kind of tabloid gossip hound.
Greetings Dark Wraith,
Besides fully supposrting everything you said, I could only mention more of our false hope of the cold war being over.
Besides the life style we have create of bombing someone before us, there is one other thing we seem to forget...
North Korea has nuclear weapon factories & they don't really like us. What about that fear of Weapons of Mass Desruction? But oh- North Korea doesn't have oil...
Good evening, Dark Muz.
Interestingly, recent events might change the idea that North Korea doesn't have oil. It seems there is a pretty darned impressive, if poorly defined, pool of oil right smack in North Korea's sovereign territory, but the Chinese have it pretty much wrapped up in a commercial agreement through a powerful organization that includes Russia and Iran.
In other words, Dark Muz, the Bush Administration has been commercially out-maneuvered once again by this alliance, which has tied up reserves from one side of Asia to the other while we spent our time making our guns go BOOM-BOOM at shadows.
We've been outfoxed by brilliant strategists—the same kind we used to put in positions of power here in the United States.
And we won't bother the North Koreans too much despite the fact that those cats really are a criminal bunch of whackos who do business in everything from weapons of mass destruction to unbelievable levels of currency forgery. The reason we aren't making such a fuss? The oil reserve isn't big enough for one thing; for another, North Korea is way too close to Mainland China.
We're really big on kicking the snot out of little tyrants who have toys we want, but if the big bad bully brother is standing right there beside the little tyrants, we suddenly get all kinds of introspective and disinterested in opening that can of wup-ass we carry around on in a several hundred billion dollar defense budget.
You see, it's one thing to try out all kinds of neato weapons systems on a slow-moving target; it's quite another thing to have to use such devices of war when the other side has a million-man army and a whole lot of serious firepower just a few hundred miles away.
The Dark Wraith would, however, be cool with it if George would volunteer to lead the way to freedom for the North Koreans by flying his Air National Guard jet into the hail of Chinese surface-to-air missiles.
Good morning, Dark Wraith.
After reading your post and all the comments, I agree with Dark Muz agreeing with you.
I really liked your Quoth the Dark Wraith
The commander of the Guantanamo Bay detention camp has called the suicides of the three detainees an "act of asymmetrical warfare." I can see it now:
"Okay, Abdul, when we see the Americans coming over the hill, we all kill ourselves."
"Brilliant battle plan Ahmed. We'll kick their imperialist asses for sure! The infidels won't know what hit 'em!"
Yeah.
(God! but we need a remote so we can adjust the fine tuning on this century.)
Those people say so many strange, weird, and senseless things.
*emerges from a looong period of hibernation, lurking, and misadventure*
G'day, all, and thank you for my continued presence on your blogroll, DW.
I read the OP and the replies here, and am drawn to a more fundamental philosophical question: Do the ends justify the means?
The answer is, like most binary alternatives in philosophy, that the question is meaningless. The ends and the means are inseparable.
If (purely hypothetically, you understand) you kill someone in order to save someone else's life, then you are contributing, among other things, to a situation in which one human being's life may be valued over another's (or, if the reaction is outrage, you are having the opposite effect, who knows). Whether this is a net good or not is a question that is immaterial here - the end, that one person live, and the means, that the other person die, both will have intermingling consequences for some unknowable period of time.
Now again, hypothetically (snerk), if you start a war based on one fictional causus belli after another, then the consequences of the deceptions and the war itself together will produce a joint effect that will be (again, snerk) nightmarishly difficult to examine, let alone predict.
The universe does not divide our actions into significant and insignificant, nor are the battles fought solely what impacts the world - even the planning, let alone the preparation, have long-lasting effects. This is why "true believers" scare the crap out of me; the decoupling of action and life experience (since sooner or later we all learn things like stoves are hot, bees don't care why you're poking the nest, strange dogs can be unpredictable).
This is where our greatest challenges will lie regarding cleaning up the mess left behind, as well. It will never be possible to undo the effects of all the preparatory work, disinformation, and both economic and social malfesance which made the Iraq war possible. The effort still must be made, and the consequences will still be with us a century from now, if not longer.
good morning dark wraith:
for those who still believe in fitzmas or that this administration will ever stand at the bar of justice...i give this, from joe wilson's attorney.
Statement of Christopher Wolf, Proskauer Rose LLP, Counsel for Ambassador Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson
"We have become aware of the communication between Mr. Fitzgerald and Mr. Luskin concerning Karl. Rove's status in the criminal investigation. We have no first-hand knowledge of the reason for the communication or what further developments in the criminal investigation it may signal. While it appears that Mr. Rove will not be called to answer in criminal court for his participation in the wrongful disclosure of Valerie Wilson's classified employment status at the CIA in retaliation against Joe Wilson for questioning the rationale for war in Iraq, that obviously does not end the matter. The day still may come when Mr. Rove and others are called to account in a court of law for their attacks on the Wilsons."
this brings back my plan of instituting the code duello again. if a pasty chicken hawk like rove had a reasonable expectation of meeting an aggreived husband in a jacksonian rage, he might be persuaded to mind his tongue. same goes for corporate fraud sons of bitches like lay and skilling. don't send them to prison, send them to a sand bar in the harbour with a sword and a second.
low tide takes the losers.
(this is stephen benson in his new guise as a blogger, the site is pretty raw now, there's nothing really to see, i'll hip you when i post something decent)
good morning dark wraith and friends: i just posted my recipe for chocolate truffles. if you need tech support, (or salvage support if it fails on you) leave a comment and i shall respond
To Stephen, er, Minstrel Boy, I just tried to post a comment at your new site and it didn't take. I'll try again later. Harps are strange and wonderful.
good morning dark wraith: this is quite strange. when i checked the site this morning it appears that one post has disappeared. was it removed? has my browser been dropping acid?