Sunday, May 28, 2006

Editorial:
A Comment on Massacre

The Marine Corps is preparing charges against a group of soldiers under applicable sections of the Uniform Code Of Military Justice regarding the killing of civilians. The alleged incident that triggered this convention of courts martial occurred at Haditha, Iraq, in November of last year. As many as 24 civilians, among them women and children, were allegedly slain by members of Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment. In what was described in several early accounts as an unfortunate involvement of civilians in a combat situation, the Marines now stand accused of literally executing non-combatants during a house-to-house search following the killing of a Kilo Company lance corporal by an improvided explosive device.

First, suffer me a minor point of decorum—a warning, if you will. So far, the Vietnam-era taunts about U.S. military personnel being "baby killers" have not found any popularity in the current era, and I hope such expressions of anti-war sentiment don't ultimately find favor. For my part, I would make it my life's gleeful and vengeful work to disgrace the user of that kind of language. Never again, that bile. (And yes, it did happen back then.) Dead civilians aren't I-told-you-so toys to prove just how right one faction was from the get-go about the awful disaster that has been this unconscionably wrongful military adventure on the far side of the world. Dead civilians don't prove anything; they're just dead.

Those women, men, and kids died unarmed, terrified beyond nighmares—wimpering, bawling, begging to young men screaming at them in a foreign tongue, maybe some translator trying to be a negotiator, some place nearby the sound of heart-wrenching POP... POP-POP... POP telling them their fate right before it befalls them. The time of endings did finally come, of course: civilians on their knees, holding as still as possible to appease the angry soldiers, maybe enough time and thought remaining to say something to God before falling through the swallowing black well of not being alive forever after.

It's their tragedy and no one else's. To the Left, don't even dream of co-opting it for a cause; to the Right, don't even bother with some disgusting idiocy about how war is Hell. Especially on the Right, how the Hell would you know, anyway, considering your hero leaders are a craven pack of cowards who couldn't even cut it back when it was their turn?

Massacres like the one at Haditha are war at its naked best, stripped of combat, denuded of goals and objectives. Massacres like the one at Haditha aren't some aberration, although that's exactly how the architects of wars fashion them after they've been discovered, sparse as the discoveries are compared to the incidence of them.

Here's the American recipe. Take young people and promise them a better life once they've done their service. Get them into basic training and scream at them from every direction—degrade them, humiliate them, punish them, threaten them, terrorize them, brutalize their bodies, their minds, and their senses until they are no longer anything but a vessel into which orders and military ways can be infused. Then let all the swaggering machismo of American butch culture come pouring in to fill the void built from the depletion of individual conscience. Once they're gutted, give them weapons; and in such machinery that destroys, kills, wrecks, and obliterates, give them the power denied them their entire lives. Make them believe that weak children become real adults through raging violence and big, metal instruments that make huge noises and tear the lives right out of souls.

Then loose them upon a shattered land where every building, every alley, even every step itself is an opportunity to get ripped apart—or worse, to watch someone else get turned into large pieces of flesh mixed with blood and blackened, purpled pulp that used to be skin.

Set them loose upon that murderous place on the other side of the muscular doors into the gigantic superstore of adulthood with a bang of instant respectability, tuition reimbursement, and a darned good excuse for not taking shit from anyone ever again.

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He was one of my biggest challenges in recent memory: a young man who just couldn't pass exams or quizzes in my basic algebra class. I knew he was trying. Many students lie and say they're studying but still not getting it, but this guy was different. He really was studying. He really was trying.

Looking at his high school and college records, I saw that he had been a very good student in math at one time. In fact, before a gap in his college career, he had taken courses beyond the one he was taking from me, and he had passed those courses with very good grades.

But there he was, still in the military, based stateside, trying to gather up a few more college courses before he was rotated back out to Iraq.

I spent time with him almost every class day. Usually, we'd stand together out in the smoking area. He was such an affable, decent guy. He still had a boyish sweetness to his personality, and he was respectful in a genuine way completely unlike that offered by the typical young college student. He almost never departed without patting me on the arm and thanking me. For what, I was never sure.

Maybe it was because I asked him questions about his Army life, about what he had done, about how difficult it was. He'd been jerked around several MOS designations, but he was still, at least to some extent, an artilleryman. Mortars.

Quite a few weekends, he couldn't do any studying. He had to be out on long marches, or he'd be training fresh cherries. His exhaustion was evident on Monday mornings.

He talked a lot about training Marines—making them look like fools when they charged into simulated urban combat environments and got slaughtered like fish in a barrel. He didn't have any use for Marines. I never bothered to tell him that the Marines didn't have any use for Army grunts, either.

Only occasionally would he talk about Iraq. One of the few times he said something about it, he told me about the march to Baghdad.

His cigarette was about three-quarters of the way finished, and he was holding it pinch style. He never took it more than a few inches from his lips as he talked. His eyes were almost transfixed on a brick wall near us, but every now and then they darted over to one side or the other as he spoke. His head didn't move—just his eyes. And his voice: it was almost a monotone. The words were coming through what looked for all the world like the slightest smile, almost like a barely discernible smirk.

A cluster of Iraqi tanks had been knocked out by fire from behind their position. My student and his squad were forward, no more than fifty yards from the burning, disabled wreckage.

"Those Iraqis came bailing out of those smoking tanks, and we just stood there picking them off as they popped out. There had to have been thirty of 'em."

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Finally, this to all of the Congressmen who are already strutting in outrage—utter, moral outrage—at the massacre in Haditha: if you voted for this war, then stop blubbering. No matter how much you condemn it now, you started it. What did you think?—that if it got ugly, that if it got brutal, that if it got really, really unpopular, you could call it off?

War is like a gasoline bomb. Once ignited by the deadly flint of passion, lies, and opportunity, it heads right straight for its own fuel source, and it combusts everything it can use: buildings, lives, treasure, innocence, will, bravado, righteousness, honor. It consumes the fuel it wants, and that's just about everything in its path. It doesn't stop until it has exhausted its fuel. It doesn't stop when you want it to stop; it doesn't stop when you order it to stop; it doesn't stop when you've had your fill. It rages on until it's finished.

If you voted for this war, you've gotten not what you wanted, but what it wanted. Spare the nation your bawling about this tragedy at Haditha. Soldiers prosecute wars as a matter of duty mixed with gruesome doses of misery and pleasure. Unarmed civilians die terrified on their knees, just as armed combatants die trying their best to kill enemy soldiers; and a whole lot of people between those extremes die, too. It's all black and white until the raging fire of war makes it all grey; and once the sky of moral clarity is grey, there's nothing to do but wait for the fuel to run out.

In Iraq, considering what we're really fighting for, there's plenty of that fuel for quite a few more years.

And for quite a few more Hadithas.



The Dark Wraith has spoken.

<< 53 Comments Total
 Stephen Benson blogged...

good evening dark wraith: a-fucking-men. that is all.
carry on.

Sun May 28, 11:40:10 PM EDT  
 oldwhitelady blogged...

Good morning, Dark Wraith.

It's all black and white until the raging fire of war makes it all grey; and once the sky of moral clarity is grey, there's nothing to do but wait for the fuel to run out.

Very nicely put. War is horrible. Too bad most of the prowar folks don't have to fight it. If they did, they wouldn't be so quick to push for war.

Mon May 29, 05:06:06 AM EDT  
 blackdog blogged...

Yesterday I spent some time with my Dad who IDed corpses in Korea (the bad ones) by their dental records. My Uncle who drove a tank in WW2 at the battle of the bulge. They did what they had to do at the time. We didn't have to do shit this time.

Mon May 29, 08:58:58 AM EDT  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

"If you voted for this war, you've gotten not what you wanted, but what it wanted." -- The Dark Wraith

Perhaps The Wraith would agree to expand on the "who and/or what" this "it" is.

Is "it" something within us? Or without? Whatever "it" is, humans are awfully efficient at it. In one of Laura Knight-Jadczyk's essays, she states "...that two billion people (have met) their deaths in a century of wars and famines..."

And, there's a "List of wars and disasters by death toll" which includes these sub-headings:
1.1 War and military action
1.1.1 Individual battles and sieges
1.2 Genocide and democide
1.2.1 Individual massacres, air raids, and concentration camps
1.3 Terrorism
1.4 Murder (by individuals, other than through terrorism)
1.5 Human sacrifice and mass suicide
1.6 Riot or political demonstration

Mon May 29, 10:49:12 AM EDT  
 dread pirate roberts blogged...

dw,
thank you for such a thoughtful reminder of what war is about, on memorial day. we watched a news piece last night about memorial day. it contrasted small town remembrances with big city nothingness. the commercials during the show were for "memorial day specials," reduced prices and no interest loans for buying cars.

Mon May 29, 11:42:17 AM EDT  
 Stephen Benson blogged...

good morning dark wraith: if i may, peter, i believe the it in question is the war itself. the people that wanted this war did not get what they wanted. read "assain's gate" and "cobra II" and "generation kill" and "one bullet away". the people that wanted this war (speaking in global war on terror terms inclusive of afghanistan, iraq, and the next poor bastards) were expecting a cakewalk. they were looking at this war like they were corporate raiders on a profit taking mission. they wanted a disneyesque "sweets and flowers" photo session followed closely by $30 a barrel oil without UN sanctions and a garaunteed diversion to the US markets without a lot of messy competition. instead they got what the war wanted. sometimes i think the greeks, romans, and others who had a personified diety of war were closer to the truth. at least they understood beyond "my god was bigger than his god" bullshit that war takes its own character. read thucydides "the peloponnesian war" paying special attention to book 3, chapter 8.2 when describing the revolution in corcyra he says In peace and prosperity states and individuals have better sentiments, because they do not find themselves suddenly confronted with imperious neccessities; but war takes away the easy supply of daily wants and so proves a rough master that brins most men's characters to a level with their fortunes. he goes on, describing simultaniously the events of the moment, but the nature of mankind. one of the things i have trouble comprehending is how, with powell in the room, these people were so able to scrap "the powell doctrine" outlining acceptable use of the military in our society. it was defined after the debacle in viet nam to address the root causes of our defeat. it was used in the first gulf war, kosovo, panama and the other "little" conflicts. clear objectives, overwhelming force, plans backing up plans, endgame strategies are all outlined and called for. we had none of that going into iraq. and, as we all know, nature, abhorring a vacuum stepped in and filled the void. i'm not a writer. so i will now apologise to those of you, including yourself peter, whose craft i have just sullied. i am a veteran, thrice wounded, still hurting physically and emotionally. i grieve my friends. i grieve for the comrades that fell beside me and the young people falling every day. i grieve for the poor civilians who sometimes just get in the way. i grieve for the idealistic teenagers, who like me, have joined for noble and practical reasons and find themselves in a shitstorm without shelter or end in sight.

i have no relgion, but this day, i'm going to pretend i believe in something, and pray.

Mon May 29, 11:43:37 AM EDT  
 Stephen Benson blogged...

good morning dark wraith and others:
as a meager apology for my poor grammar and lack of coherence and style, i offer this, from vachel lindsay
the leaden-eyed

Let not young souls be smothered out before
They do quaint deeds and fully flaunt their pride.
It is the world's one crime its babes grow dull,
Its poor are ox-like, limp and leaden-eyed.

Not that they starve, but starve so dreamlessly;
Not that they sow, but that they seldom reap;
Not that they serve, but have no gods to serve;
Not that they die, but that they die like sheep.

-- Vachel Lindsay


even in my restless nights, i dream of peace.

Mon May 29, 01:09:16 PM EDT  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

"I have no religion, but this day, i'm going to pretend i believe in something, and pray." -- Stephen Benson

Stephen, in the novel, "The Stars My Destination" by Alfred Bester, these words appear near the ending:

"I believe," he thought, "I have faith."
"Faith in what?" he asked himself, adrift in limbo.
"Faith in faith," he answered himself. "It isn't necessary to have something to believe in. It's only necessary to believe that somewhere there's something worthy of belief."

Mon May 29, 01:33:42 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Amen, PoLT, all hail the god of war, terrible and beautiful in his awesome splendor.

I just wish we could bury him deep, and raise the God of Law.

Good Afternoon Dark Wraith,


Here's the American recipe. Take young people and promise them a better life once they've done their servive. Get them into basic training and scream at them from every direction—degrade them, humiliate them, punish them, threaten them, terrorize them, brutalize their bodies, their minds, and their senses until they are no longer anything but a vessel into which orders and military ways can be infused. Then let all the swaggering machismo of American butch culture come pouring in to fill the void built from the depletion of individual conscience. Once they're gutted, give them weapons; and in such machinery that destroys, kills, wrecks, and obliterates, give them the power denied them their entire lives.


I've always been told that this is the only way to produce a good soldier. I've always doubted that degradation, humiliation, punishment, threatening, terrorization, and especially brutalization could turn out anything except someone who is psychically wounded, or a monster. We don't even teach our trained dogs like that. For obvious reasons(at least obvious to a dog handler).

How much better to take a little time, while instructing them on military theory and battles, to have them train physically to the max, but in an absolutely respectful, and moral atmosphere. In other words, teach them more than bullying and murder, if you want your troops to be more than bullies and murderers.

Mon May 29, 04:24:36 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, SB Gypsy.

If we wanted troops to be more than bullies and murderers, we wouldn't be sending them to the kinds of wars our leaders prefer.


The Dark Wraith wishes it were the leaders who suffered.

Mon May 29, 05:47:17 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Hmmmm - was that just the echo of another idealized, nonexistant past? Have we ever had an honorable war - and is that a contradiction in terms?

Mon May 29, 05:52:27 PM EDT  
 saoba blogged...

Terry Prachett has a bit in one of his recent books: Night Watch

"No,"said Vimes, coming to a halt under a lamp by the crypt
entrance. "How dare you? How dare you? At this time! And in this
place! They did the job they didn't have to do, and they died
doing it and you can't give them anything! Do you understand? They fought for those who had been abandoned, they fought for one another, and they were betrayed. Men like them always are. What good would a statue be? It'd just inspire new fools to believe they're going to be heroes. They
wouldn't want that. Just let them be. Forever."

I re-read that recently and I found myself sitting there with tears in my eyes.

Mon May 29, 06:10:45 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, once again, SB Gypsy.

Stephen Benson caught what I meant by my choice of the word "it" when describing the consciousness of war.

You see, so many people, setting aside their more fantastic thoughts, understand "being" as the province of humanity. Perhaps they also confer it to other animals, too; but always, always, consciousness, sentience, sensibility, thought, memory, and all such qualities are exclusive to biology—to beasts we can touch and feel and taste and ultimately understand in some way or another.

The Age of Science taught us rightly to dispense with fantasy borne of imagination, but it disserved us by removing from our sight things that are every bit as conscious as—perhaps even more so than—we, ourselves.

War is an "it," and I do not mean that in the sense of an inanimate concept or object. To believe that war does not live, breath, reproduce, parasitize, use, expend, respirate, and live on is to wholly misunderstand it, and in so doing, to become unvigilant to its call.

The neo-conservatives see war as a tool of their aspirations, their theories, and their plans; as such, it is they who become the inanimate objects brought to use in the aggregate violence war needs to issue forth from its brief periods of restless sleep. And once war has a new host from which to breed its beginnings, it will inevitably rush forward into the here and now, chewing up everything it can find.

Today, we celebrate Memorial Day. In so recognizing the great sufferings and in so rejoicing in the welcome armistices of the past, we at once bow to that great monster for which we have repeatedly lived and died.

It is no god, that thing called War; but it is certainly a being superior to us.

After all, SB Gypsy, it is we who render unto it such terrible sacrifices.


The Dark Wraith has offered his perspective.

Mon May 29, 06:24:53 PM EDT  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

"It is no god, that thing called War; but it is certainly a being superior to us.
After all, SB Gypsy, it is we who render unto it such terrible sacrifices."
-- Dark Wraith

I disagree as to its "being superior to us". In 1970, Walt Kelly, through his character Pogo, wrote the words, "We have met the enemy... and he is us".
More recently, you wrote, "I Am Become Battle, How White Be My Tears".
Now, consequences aside, does Pogo have a choice to be at war with himself? Or not? Consequences and motivations aside, did you have a choice to enter basic training? Or not?

I maintain that yes, we do have these choices; but, most of humanity seems to have either forgotten their choice-making abilities, or been led to believe that choice does not exist. But we have it. We have always had it. We can choose War. Or not choose War. And that makes US superior to IT.

As to why we've forgotten our abilities and continue to sacrifice ourselves, for now let's just say the war-mongers have a better press agent.

Mon May 29, 09:37:19 PM EDT  
 father tyme blogged...

PoLT,
Good Grief, Man; "The Stars My Destination"? You must be close to my venerable age to have read those. (I still have the original(?) DoubleDay edition of that one alone with many, many others from the 40s and 50s).
Maybe we could enlist the 2nd Stage Lensman Kit Kinneson to help us.

Mon May 29, 10:05:43 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Peter of Lone Tree.

By the consistency with which something happens, we infer that it is in some sense of necessity, whether or not we understand the rule that drives it. That we decline to see the rule does not mitigate its existence (the quantum mechanists' claims to the contrary notwithstanding).

Things exist without us, and things exist without us.

This does not mean we are forever bound by fate; but what it does mean is that it is not merely a matter of simple decision to abandon the thing that hurts us so much. Far too many are those who can attest that the most earnest, heartfelt, fearsome vow to quit an addictive habit evaporates under sufficient compulsion.

Some things are not the simple vassals of will, and trying to defeat such monsters will almost inevitably result in failure, which takes victims to an utter depth of despair as they see themselves as too "weak" to break their addiction. What they don't understand is that, until they recognize the ungodly power and complexity of the enemy, they will elect strategies easily defeated.

This has as one of its implications that personalizing and internalizing the fights of our life is not necessarily a winning way.

How many people, Peter, do you suppose tried their very, very best to end the Bush Administration in 2004? How many people threw more money than they could really afford at the Presidential race? How many people pinned absolute hope on Kerry defeating Bush?

For that matter, how many people put a decent amount of their credibility on the line hoping with all their hearts and writing with all their fervor that Rove was going to be indicted at the beginning of May?

You see, Peter, people get very depressed after they've put so much effort into battles like these that they lose. They feel powerlessness sinking in.

On the thread from my article, "The Woodshed," LindiBee explained that part of the neo-conservative strategy is to the end of setting their enemies up with false hope, then crushing their hope and, in the event, crushing their will.

It is not we who are the enemy; it is something else—something strong, complicated, and most importantly, long-surviving. It spans not just generations, but eras, even epochs, even species. It is not something we can simply wish away nor something we can fight fervently away.

Neither is it something we can pray away.

But, Peter, that doesn't mean that wish, fight, and prayer are not part of keeping the monster at bay; it's just that those aren't the only things we need.

That means we need to add to wish, fight, and prayer at least one other ingredient: perseverence.

And even if, in one lifetime or a hundred centuries, we fail, we are better for having never, ever let the enemy serve us the final defeat, which is surrender.


The Dark Wraith will, for his own part, never.

Mon May 29, 10:11:23 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, saoba.

I greatly appreciate your offering of that passage from Night Watch. It sometimes quiets me to imagine how much our own time is bound to all time with tethers that include in no small measure such emotions as anger and grief.

At the Vietnam Memorial, so many people approached it and literally touched the monolith. Some people looked so sad as they did that.

I think those were the people who knew there was no one on the other side of that stone.


The Dark Wraith didn't touch what he didn't want to feel the absence of.

Mon May 29, 10:26:05 PM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

We can choose War. Or not choose War.

This is true, but only partly so, and therefore misleading in my opinion.

It is true that in the absence of the actions of others we can choose, or not choose War.

What, then, when someone else chooses to visit war upon us?

It only takes one to make War, and that one does not have to be you or me.

- oddjob

Mon May 29, 11:34:14 PM EDT  
 Phoenician in a time of Romans blogged...

Dead civilians aren't I-told-you-so toys to prove just how right one faction was from the get-go about the awful disaster that has been this unconscionably wrongful military adventure on the far side of the world.

No, you miss the point.

Unnecessary war is "unconscionably wrong" precisely because it involves dead civilians - whether massacred by troops, flattened in bombed buildings, or shitting themselves to death through dysentry.

They are indeed "I told you so" toys - or, to be more specific, they are a goddamned club with which to beat the morons who cheered on the war.

I would, if I could, shove the noses of the Goldsteins and Freepers of the world into the raw stinking guts of these corpses, women and children who got in the way, while screaming "this is what you wanted! Do you like it now? Huh, do you?"

War is an obscenity. This massacre is that obscenity in stark relief. Fuck decorum - this is an albatross to chain around the neck of every single warblogger and cheerer on. Let it rot and stink and fester.

This is what war is. We fucking knew it, and it sickened us even before the bombs started flying. And now you think we should swallow our bile politely out of respect for the dead?

Tue May 30, 02:05:21 AM EDT  
 Vizsla1086 blogged...

"Alito's opponents shouldn't think so much about defeating him"

I beg your pardon? Those of us who are utterly opposed to Alito's confirmation should stand quietly by and surrender because Ms. Althouse requires it? Why would you suggest such a thing? Would you obey such an admonition if someone directed it at you?

Those of us who are opposed are frightened nigh into stupified horror at the deliberate scuttling of relevant statutes by this administration. Mr. Alito's well-out-of-the-mainstream expansive view of Executive privilege (among other issues) needs to be confronted directly, at least in my view.

Tue May 30, 09:07:50 AM EDT  
 Vizsla1086 blogged...

The massacre was and is hideous, and you're quite right. It's a natural consequence of war.

That doesn't make your column any less sanctimonious and self-indulgent. Perhaps a better expression might be "over-written."

There are real enemies in the world that mean others harm. Pacifism often seems wonderful in the abstract, but it seems barbaric in the face of Darfur and Kosovo, or in the face of Nazi Germany.

We ask our government - as others ask their respective governments, to craft policies and undertake actions that reasonably protect their nations. Americans have historically gone a bit further. We have often asked our government to be have responsibly, to behave ethically, and to note when we have lost our way and correct it.

The massacre happened not only as a natural consequence of war, but as a natural consequence of our government (and therefore we ourselves) starting a pre-emptive war, a startling and hideous sin all by itself. That error (and sin) was compounded by not heeding the professional warnings of professional soldiers, so that the insurgency bloomed and has flourished.

That, in turn, created the context that led to IEDs and explosions and reflexive rage, and finally, massacre.

It's not enough to say that war is awful. Of course it's awful. That's why it should never be undertaken unless utterly necessary and solely for survival's sake.

I sympathize with your anger, but I genuinely think you're missing the point. Fundamentalist Islamic terrorism is a genuine enemy of western civilization. It must be confronted, but it must be fought sensibly, intelligently, and with a notion that it can't be fought alone.

I don't pretend to know precisely what the best startegy might be, but it isn't this war and the way it's being fought.

and that, IMO, is the tragedy and horror of all this.

Tue May 30, 09:22:15 AM EDT  
 litbrit blogged...

But, Peter, that doesn't mean that wish, fight, and prayer are not part of keeping the monster at bay; it's just that those aren't the only things we need.

That means we need to add to wish, fight, and prayer at least one other ingredient: perseverence.

And even if, in one lifetime or a hundred centuries, we fail, we are better for having never, ever let the enemy serve us the final defeat, which is surrender.


Would it be too sentimental-sounding to admit that I read this eloquent and wholly moving post through a haze of tears?

Or too weak to admit that before reading the above comment of Mr. Wraith's, I was right at the edge, ready to give up? I'm just a mother, a writer, a single soul. I write and write; I petition and petition. I speak out whenever I can.

And I pray. To whom, I'm not sure.

But there I was, ready to throw my hands into the air, and my heart along with it. I am tired. I hurt for these unfortunate families--all of them, the children of the dead soldiers who are still being lied to, I don't doubt, and told this is a necessary "War Against Terror"; the families in Iraq who must surely feel more terror, more abject misery, more anger and hopelessness and grief today than they did under a well-known despot. The families of the dead ones do, at least.

On June 6th, it will be seven years since my best friend died, at age 37, of pancreatic cancer. It came, and she went, within mere weeks. It was her war; it was her Armageddon. Those dead innocents in Iraq were no less dead because it was at the hands of a so-called "liberating force" than they would have been if Sadam had executed them. Dead is dead.

But Wraith is right. He echos Churchill, who said "Never give in; never give in; never give in".

The enemy is right here among us. And we must never give in until it is stilled.

Tue May 30, 09:39:13 AM EDT  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

"Good Grief, Man; "The Stars My Destination"? You must be close to my venerable age to have read those. (I still have the original(?) DoubleDay edition of that one alone with many, many others from the 40s and 50s)." -- Father Tyme

Mine's a Signet "Copyright 1956 by Galaxy Publishing Corporation" (35 cents !) edition and it's somewhat tattered but still readable. Ol' Gully's right up there at the top of my list of fictional heroes, along with Rockin' Robin.

Yes, I too am of a "venerable age" but dem goils over at still keep callin' me "Cabana Boy".

Tue May 30, 09:50:08 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, Peter of Lone Tree.

It seems to me that the good women of BlondeSense calls them as they sees them.

Be grateful. In our Golden Years, most of us fellows have to tie pork chops around our necks just to get the family dog to like us.


The Dark Wraith heads to the meat counter.

Tue May 30, 10:03:41 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, litbrit.

I wonder how many people notice when blogs in our part of the Blogosphere die away. I've seen more than a few where the blogger simply stopped posting new material. In other cases, the blogger offered a parting post, often containing words to the effect of moving on, changing directions, or just not having the time.

However these endings are made—by simple and sudden stillness or by a farewell—I wonder how many die by the sheer, cumulative effect of despair.

I wonder about that; but I can't seem to bring myself in several cases to remove those old blogs from my sidebar. At least one blog over there hasn't been updated in well more than a year, and several others haven't been updated in months.

Despair, litbrit, might very well be the end for those who are its innocent victims; but it does not have to be the end for those who must bear witness as it ravages the community of hope.

In my judgment, realism imposes the unavoidable consequence of pessimism; but it certainly has nothing to say about the span of a lifetime fully, willingly, and even excitedly engaged in the struggle to keep the hearth burning brightly against the impenetrable darkness surrounding it.

And litbrit, the more fiercely we do our good, and the more of us who do that good, the farther away from us we might keep that awful abyss, at least over the course of a lifetime well lived.


That, at least, is how the Dark Wraith sees it.

Tue May 30, 10:25:29 AM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good morning, Vizsla1086. Welcome to The Dark Wraith Forums.

It seems to me that your first comment was intended for an entirely different place. You would not have seen such a quote as you cited written here—certainly not by me; and if my memory serves me properly, that statement was never written in any comment here by anyone else.

Now, to your second comment regarding the article from which this thread has arisen, I am unsure of the extent to which your statements diverge markedly from what I have written, although you may be correct, perhaps even charitable, in assessing my writing as overwrought. (I, myself, stated flatly and earnestly in a comment about a month ago that "my writing really sucks"; but I do press on despite my general obtuseness and penchant for tangles of phrasing.)

Over the course of the many months I have published on this blog and elsewhere, I have done my best to make it clear that I am no pacifist, certainly not in the common sense of that noun. I have, in fact, been taken to task for what at times seems like a coldly technocratic perspective on war and its conduct.

On another blog several months ago, I wrote a long, technical comment about the use of airstrikes to pursue the tactical objective of killing targeted enemy operatives. My comment suffered a rather fierce response from a strong-willed, very intelligent gentleman who came near to condemning me for writing so coldly about bombings instead of using terms he preferred like "blown to bits" to describe the effects on innocent civilians of air strikes.

Although I could have been wholly mean and noted to him that he had never seen the effect of a bombing raid (the term 'blown to bits' does not in a meaningful way capture the horror of the bodies and, worse, the horror of the still living), I elected not to take such a crass approach. He has his way, and I have mine.

An instance of observation usually reveals little about the scope, philosophy, or broad aegis of an individual.

I would encourage you to go through the many posts and comment threads here at The Dark Wraith Forums. You will find that I am not a Leftist, and I'm probably not even reasonably characterized as a "liberal." Interestingly, and perhaps far more importantly, most of the people who comment here aren't easily classified either, even though many of them would, for lack of better appellations, stipulate to terms others would assign. The measure of the great and good person is not so much in the common words that must be used from day to day, but in how they reveal their thoughts when they are given the opportunity to speak freely and in the community of thinking and forthright others. To that extent, you will find here that I am just one in a veritable sea of thinkers whose judgments, perspectives, and thought processes are extraordinarily complex.

We are, however, to the last one of us unwaivering in our condemnation of this era and its spitefully incompetent architects; and it is the metric of the deeply considered judgment of such people as these that neo-conservatism should be contemplated, for within its own ranks are utter simpletons, and its apologists are rife with and infused of sheer idiots bereft of any capacity whatsoever to step back and look at the absolute folly of their assumptions, their understandings, and their methods.

Make no mistake, Vizsla1086: I am no pacifist; but I surely want peace. I am no liberal, but I surely think liberally. If I may be so forward, I would argue that liberalism of thought is a defining trait among the greatly intelligent, and it is on clear display in most of the readers and commenters in places like this Weblog.

In fact, as an example, you might from time to time see someone even wave the banner of "Islamic fundamentalism" as cause for a posture of military vigilance; and you might see someone else respond with a modest reminder that terminology like that exists within a frame constructed precisely for the purpose of calling forth a militarily and even culturally aggressive reactive posture.

Such dialogue is encouraged here, even if it is to the end of taking umbrage with my publications; but I would also encourage the raconteur who wishes to engage this enormous polylogue here at The Dark Wraith Forums to read back through the articles and associated threads in the "Analysis and Editorial" section of the sidebar to the purpose of better seeing the scope of thought expressed here in words, both by others and by me.

The most unfortunate downside of that exercise is that you will have further and ample evidence that my writing is, indeed, overwrought; and you are free to point out again to me that rather glaring flaw. I would, however, adminish you to avoid extending the criticism to the somewhat obvious and wholly personal criticism of my crookéd nose so obvious in my profile picture.


The Dark Wraith has always been rather fragile about that matter.

Tue May 30, 11:31:44 AM EDT  
 Fred Bieling blogged...

I'm on trial myself currently for being a traitor, and having the nerve to speak up and distinguish my self as different from the "babykiller" name calling type.

Tue May 30, 12:37:59 PM EDT  
 charliepotato blogged...

Hello Dark Wraith,

Sorry it had to be said...you know, the oil and all that business...after all we must be aware of the goal or no need the fight. Charlie has seen a little of it himself and as you say he to gets a bit sensitive. You broke it down quite efficiently.

Charliepotato

Tue May 30, 12:50:16 PM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

This entire war is a travesty and planned atrocity. Yes, in my opinion the marines are babykillers, adolescent killers, son and daughter killers, husband and wife killers, and old men and women killers. They are not much different than the rest of the military structure (dedicated to Iraq) that is responsible for killing tens of thousands other Iraqis since the start of the occupation.

The only real difference is that these marines have an identity, in both name and place, as compared to some generic war machine. And for that, they will be a target. To me they are no better or worse than the rest of them; they all ought to rot in hell, including their commander in chief.

Tue May 30, 01:46:12 PM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

But if you are a part of society in which obedience to authority is paramount, and drilled into you from day one as basic necessity for effective functioning, and the ostensible purpose of that society is to protect the greater society which sponsors its existence, why hold all of them responsible for the criminal behavior of the leader?

- oddjob

Tue May 30, 02:48:22 PM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

(... a part of a society....)

- oddjob (who hates this war, but also thinks reflexively labelling all military "baby killers" and wishing for them all to rot in hell is lazy thinking; it only takes one to make a war, and that one doesn't have to be American)

Tue May 30, 02:50:16 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Afternoon Dark Wraith,

they all ought to rot in hell, including their commander in chief.

...and after that, I'll have to repeat what I said in another thread:

I cannot even imagine fighting on and on in a war that has no reason or target, in a dishonorable position, In a chaotic environment, yet expected to be honorable and systematic.

And all that, while living next to people who are making ten times what you are, and you have to risk your life to protect.

It's shameful what they ask of them. And may Bushco and all his cronys who are profiteering from this mess rot in hell forever! (He actually makes me wish there WAS a hell....)

Tue May 30, 03:21:56 PM EDT  
 Stephen Benson blogged...

good afternoon dark wraith: and in aside to my pet goat: as a combat veteran i will answer you simply and directly. your wishes and threats of hell are meaningless. hell? pshaw. try hue, ang lap, dak to, khe sanh, the a shau. that's hell with teeth and more hopeless and frightening than the paintings of bosch or the rantings of jonathan edwards. you want these kids to rot in hell? they are already there. they need us to bring them home, allow them a chance to be human beings again. i am not saying that they are all about honor and decency. i'm saying that every day they spend under the pressure they are feeling today, diminishes them, and us. i would rather see the architects of this insanity emptying bedpans at a VA facility, sitting with spoons feeding the droolers from the last two wars they thought were such great ideas. i want them to watch a continuous loop of the helicopters bringing in load upon load of wounded and shattered bodies. that would be much more appropriate than any made up, scare the kids hell. but, more than anything else, i want it to stop. i have known too many soldiers that made decency and honor their code in psychological self-defense. i have also known the opposite number. most of us vacillated between the poles. don't expect our soldiers to be anything other than what we tell them to be. if you don't like the actions of the military, change the people giving the orders. ballots and money for the campaigns are far more effective uses of our voices than empty name calling. and i'm sure, no matter what vile epithets you can come up with they've already seen far, far worse.

Tue May 30, 03:50:31 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, Mr. Goat.

I shall add to Stephen's comment only a minor addendum.

The most difficult part of prior service for some is keeping one's own self apart from the labels that could and sometimes are handed out by society. All of my individualistic tendencies aside for a moment, I am very much like everyone else in needing as part of my life a definition in the context of my society. I can pretend to be separate from my material world—and I can in measurable ways even achieve that, as I have—but I'm still within my society, accepted or rejected as the case may be.

Mr. Goat, I don't want to be defined as a killer—not of babies, not of anyone.

But I think you're right: once a killer, always a killer.

At least for me, then, John the Baptist can keep his baptismal water for someone for whom there might actually be enough to wash away the past.


The Dark Wraith should now move on to a new post on something less depressing.

Tue May 30, 04:05:29 PM EDT  
 blackdog blogged...

Good afternoon, Dark One.

Unfortunately the labels tend to stick. I understand that it is pointless to try to peg anyone as to their thoughts, but some are limited enough to allow this, although I don't see them here.

A real person has such a breadth of experience and understanding that they cannot really be labeled, but the limited ones do it anyway and refuse to consider just what the expanded ones are trying to get accross.

Sometimes I need a larger dose of patience just to make it to the end of the day. And then sometimes someone can do something thoughtful and really cheer me up.

As a former vocational educator I remember so many times that I was surprised by what some of the students could do, if they could be led to do it. I always loved seeing the light come on, then sit back and learn from them.

The worst aspect of life is to not have a purpose.And that's what being labeled can do.

Tue May 30, 04:56:52 PM EDT  
 father tyme blogged...

DW,
On a somewhat upbeat thought:
This is a badly remembered anecdote from the 50s by physicist George Gamow:

“I once heard of a race of ephemeral insects that lived but one hour. On a mushroom near a rock one of the older insect who had lived well beyond his time was addressing a group of the younger who were watching a setting sun.
The elder told the crowd that there was a time in his youth that not only was the sun higher in the sky but that the sun actually rose and shone in the east not in the west as it does now. And that could only mean that the sun will continue moving westward and sink beyond the horizon and be lost forever thus dooming their race.
I never learned what happened to that race of insects, but I have heard that the sun rose again the next morning.”

Just a good thought.

Tue May 30, 05:57:38 PM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

...and the ostensible purpose of that society is to protect the greater society which sponsors its existence...

...it only takes one to make a war...

I don't buy it. Iraq and its entire basis was/is bogus. George Bush could not have started Iraq by himself. The entire military is volunteer, as are the chickenhawks, as are the damn politicans that supported it by inaction.

I agree Stephen Benson, those young adults are in hell, but they are there of their OWN CHOOSING (what, 30 years with no draft?). The fact that they WILLINGLY elected to JOIN and PARTICIPATE in a society (as Oddjob calls it) that has an implicit purpose of killing people garners no support from me.

This country has not had a war that is truely about defending our freedoms for some time. This military is essentially all about offense, and not defense. Until those young kids quit signing up, or start laying down their arms, or finally say "fuck it, I'm not doing this anymore" they will continue to propagate the killing mentality.

It takes two to tango; they bought a ticket to the dance and now they get to listen to the music. They are not defending my freedoms, and I don't like the fucking music.

Tue May 30, 07:02:06 PM EDT  
 PoliShifter blogged...

Hi Dark Wraith,

OT but I thought you might enjoy this:

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Tue May 30, 10:43:13 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...


The entire military is volunteer,


I would say that the first year that was true, though probably 80% never would have signed up if they actually thought they might be forced to fight something like our war in IRAQ as it's been mishandled. (there, but for the grace of a bastard who wanted to cheat her out of college, WOULD have gone my step daughter. Thank anyone who's interested that she didn't re-up)

Now that we have the Nat Guard, and the Coast Guard and every other quasi military force over there, I would say a very large percentage never signed on to be doing what they are doing now.

With the lack of military goal, doing a job they were never trained for (police work in a chaotic war zone) and the repeted return to action, I would say they are being misused, and abused.

Wed May 31, 10:10:51 AM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

This country has not had a war that is truely about defending our freedoms for some time.

Well sure, but that's not the fault of the enlistees; that's the fault of the political leaders.

Blaming the enlistees for complicity strikes me as weird. In its way it's not that different from blaming the illegals from having the temerity to break a law because they seek to improve their lives. Most of the enlistees aren't coming from lives that are improved by writing off the military.

Furthermore, at least a chunk of them enlisted in direct response to 9/11, and whether you believe the whole thing was a planned job by a cabal of American corporatists or not, condeming a not so bright 18 year old enlistee for responding to what he or she saw on TV (what we all saw) is hardly a humane tack to take.

Stephen's right. That enlistee already knows more about Hell than you or I will ever know.

- oddjob

Wed May 31, 10:29:37 AM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

(Said law broken by illegals is, to my way of thinking, a law deliberately designed to be broken, and I forgot to mention that.)

I also agree with SB Gypsy, and belatedly realize I wasn't even thinking about the Guard and what they thought they were signing up for, vs. what they're dealing with now.

Don't for a moment think I approve of this war. This war is a criminal enterprise, but I don't hold the soldiers responsible for a decision made by chickenhawks who lacked the character to serve when the law required them to. If it's up to me, the leadership in the White House is removed immediately and tried on war crimes & crimes against humanity charges.

And as you are no doubt aware, the military is now having huge problems filling their recruitment goals, so it's not as though new recruits wholly complicit with what's happening are a big chunk of what makes up the military forces in Iraq.

- oddjob

Wed May 31, 10:38:01 AM EDT  
 Auntie Roo blogged...

Ah perserverence. Nothing can be accomplished without it. To me the true measure of perserverence is that even if you have allowed despair to take hold and given in to its darkness, that eventually, as time passes, you are once more compelled to press forward. The despair is merely a pause between each push towards your goal.

As to the idea that we have an "all volunteer" army, there are many who "volunteer" because they have little choice. When the jobs that are available don't pay a living wage, have no health care, and no chance for any hope of advancement, a stint in the army with all that it entails may seem like your only option.

Wed May 31, 12:38:48 PM EDT  
 The Fat Lady Sings blogged...

It was probably one of the saddest days of my life. I just could not believe that people could totally lose control and I've heard people say this happened all the time. I don't believe it. I'm not naive to understand that innocent civilians did get killed in Vietnam. I truly pray to God that My Lai was not an everyday occurrence. I don't know if anybody could keep their sanity if something like that happens all the time. I can see where four or five people get killed, something like that. But that was nothing like that, it was no accident whatsoever. Pure premeditated murder. And we're trained better than that and it's just not something you'd like to do.

Chief Warrant Officer Hugh Thompson on the Mai Lai massacre. Right and wrong don't disappear in boot camp, Dark Wraith. I know a little something about trauma - and I can tell you that evil is a choice. Haditha and Mai Lai were not midst of war killings as described by your student. They were premeditated murder by sadists. Period.

Wed May 31, 01:39:09 PM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

...I would say a very large percentage never signed on to be doing what they are doing now.

As to the specific situation, I'm sure you are probably correct. However, any person with any intelligence at all knows the basic fundamental purpose of the military is to kill or maim in the name of your country. Bottom line, they made an initial choice to sign on, whether they thought is was their only option, good intentions, or for whatever reason.

They all have the opportunity to ask themselves Am I doing the right thing by killing innocent people? Where they become complicit, in my opinion, is when they are faced with another choice, and they don't make it. That is, to say walk away.

Would you continue to support killing of innocents to avoid sitting in the brig?

Do you have the conscience that allows you to do so, and then shrug if off by saying it was my only choice?

Or do you have the moral fortitude to accept the personal consequences of doing what is right?


Ask yourself what you would do; I know what I would do.

Wed May 31, 01:57:59 PM EDT  
 PoliShifter blogged...

I've been avoiding this story for some time now because I am not sure about my views on it...that is, I am not sure my views would jive with most people.

I for one do not want to see these Marines charged with murder and executed.

I put the blame soley on the Bush Administration. As Dark Wraith alluded to, not only is it part of their training to become Natural Born Killers but beyond that these kids are on their 2nd, 3rd, even fourth tours, getting stop lossed, and watching their buddies get blown up.

They are not given the tools needed to do the job properly. They have no clear mission and the president refuses to change course, strategy, direction, let alone really listen to the commanders on the ground.

I do not excuse their behavior.

I am only saying that I can understand how these kids in Iraq, the only thing they are fighting for is each other.

When they see their buddies getting blown up and they have a suspicion of who did it, if they don't have the proper leadership and control, they are bound to crack.

Especially as we keep sending troops over to Iraq that have mental problems and are even suicidal.

I don't know what should be done. I think those marines should get counseling. Should they serve time? I don't know.

But I don't think they should be made scape goats for Bush's failed war.

Wed May 31, 04:01:18 PM EDT  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

I've always tried never to be in that kind of situation. Never wanted to be in the military, and if they'd drafted women back then, I would have gone to Canada. No way!

But, in Iraq, the problem is, if they walk away, they are turning their backs on people that have probably saved their life more than once. I don't know if I could do that.

I know I could defend myself and my family to the death. Insofar as your unit becomes your family, I can see why a soldier would stay, even though the war stinks and is imoral.

I blame Bushco, and Halliburton. I put lesser blame on individual soldiers, because of the pressure they are under from their officers, and because of the flawed training (psychological indoctrination and not enough training) that they've been subjected to.

I put way more blame on this administration for ignoring the military planners, and prosecuting the war intentionally in a way that would prolong it, with no intention of winning it. It's their forever war, a _fleece_our_treasury_ party.

Wed May 31, 05:01:26 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, PoliShifter.

Thank you for your input. You are correct that your opinion would not be shared by many, although quite a few prior service would quietly nod.

I doubt, however, that counseling would do much of anything to alleviate what had been damaged beyond repair, at least not counseling in any traditional sense. We can talk and talk about trauma in our lives, and perhaps sometimes we can find resolutions, pathways, or even finalities in the course of our speeches. I think I have, at least to some extent.

But then I have dreams, and therein I have found myself years later still, in highly abstracted, wholly displaced ways reliving, retelling, re-animating things from so long ago.

Rage. Being trapped or unable to leave. Some source of terrible menace that I can't see (it's always just on the other side of a door or a wall, and it invites me in some familiar voice or sense that I know isn't really it). Confusion about where I am. Strange, moving little pictures and symbols I only partially understand showing up on a communication device like a phone or a pager: the parts I understand forewarn of danger.

Sad places.

Darkness.

Almost always at night. Maybe lights—bright candle light—in buildings nearby, but those are places I can't go, mostly because it doesn't occur to me that I should or need to.


Counseling won't do much good for those killers.

Neither, as you note, will execution. All that will do is ensure that the night will never have an end, just like for their two dozen victims.

It's such a pity that men like President Bush are conferred the power to bring night to so many.


The Dark Wraith finds it all such tragedy.

Wed May 31, 05:04:06 PM EDT  
 Anonymous blogged...

And a crime.

- oddjob

Wed May 31, 05:27:00 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Yes, OddJob. A crime, too.


The Dark Wraith sometime forgets that obscuring the obvious is a specialty of the neo-cons.

Wed May 31, 06:24:48 PM EDT  
 My Pet Goat blogged...

What is a tragedy also, is that our society is so primative that we even have to have this discussion.

Wed May 31, 07:37:24 PM EDT  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good evening, Mr. Goat.

Telling, isn't it? The very pinnacle of all social evolution, the very master culture itself, the template by which those primitive kinds shall be made modern wonders.

Yet, here we are, having this conversation.


The Dark Wraith finds that, in itself, blackly ironic.

Wed May 31, 07:59:15 PM EDT  
 blackdog blogged...

Dark One, what they need is not death but prison. That would put my mind at rest, for a while. Then over a 20 year period maybe we could take the nation back to the grand experiment that began it. Of course I am full of shit, but it's my shit and I refuse to deny the possibility. Maybe, if we all grunt hard enough it will happen. Got to have some hope, or there isn't any point. Everybody start now, UUUGGGGHHHH!!!!

Hopefully the Dark One hears and acts.

Wed May 31, 08:04:38 PM EDT  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

To: You
From: God

Take counsel. I hear your cry. It passes through the darkness, filters through the clouds, mingles with starlight, and finds its way to my heart on the path of a sunbeam. I have anguished over the cry of a hare choked in the noose of a snare, a sparrow tumbled from the nest of its mother, a child thrashing helplessly in a pond, and a son shredding his blood on a cross. Know that I hear you, also. Be at peace. Be calm. I bring thee relief for your sorrow for I know its cause ... and its cure.

(...)

Choose to love ... rather than hate.
Choose to laugh ... rather than cry.
Choose to create ... rather than destroy.
Choose to persevere ... rather than quit.
Choose to praise ... rather than gossip.
Choose to heal ... rather than wound.
Choose to give ... rather than steal.
Choose to act ... rather than procastinate.
Choose to grow ... rather than rot.
Choose to pray ... rather than curse.
Choose to live ... rather than die.

Click Here for the complete text of "The God Memorandum" by Og Mandino

Wed May 31, 11:25:37 PM EDT