Special Analysis:
The Unraveling and Unfolding of Iraq
The Kurds want their own state. This is causing the Turks to the North great concern, especially since it appears that Israel—not long ago becoming quite the friend of Turkey—now sees productive political and military groundwork to be laid in a nascent Kurdistan.
The Shi'ites want perhaps not one, but two quasi-states for themselves, constructing as that scenario would the platform from which could eventually be constructed a political/religious span all the way from Iran to Syria.
And obviously, the Sunnis want their own turf, but they're none too thrilled because the only sand remaining for them has little oil under it, which means they would prefer to keep a tighter federation together to enhance their claim on some of the revenues from "Iraqi" oil,
which is really Shi'ite Iraqi oil and Kurdish Iraqi oil. That having been said, the Sunnis are in no mood to acquiesce to the currently emerging constitution. In a bizarre coalition, militant Shia cleric Moqtada al Sadr has joined some Sunni leaders in saying that Shias and Sunnis alike will reject the constitution at its referendum in October, setting the stage for a major setback to hopes of political stability imposed by a statutory framework outside of religious law, rule of strongmen, and force of foreign arms.Here's the upshot: if the coalition abandons Iraq, then the Shi'ites and the Kurds can get what they want, and the Sunnis will end up losing some of the primary sources for their on-going machinery of mayhem. Although the insurgency is internally complex and not monolithic by any means, a major cluster of provisionalism and murder arises from men who are Sunni Muslim by religion and Baathist by political affiliation. They still have plenty of weapons to keep causing trouble for years to come, but the primary pumps of weapons coming from Jordan, Syria, Iran, and other points all around the compass would dry up. Specifically, Syria and Iranneither or which are "state sponsors" of the insurgency in Iraq, but both of which have borders like sieveswould move swiftly to bind strong alliance to the Shi'ites. In a recent visit to Iraq, the Vice President of Iran said, "We consider Iraq as our brother." A statement referencing kinship carries all kinds of subtext in the Middle East, and the reference to ties likened to blood means the contemplation of lasting, binding effect to a degree and depth perhaps not fully understood among American planners with their own ideas of what alliances are to come of Iraq's new nationhood. The point was not missed by the Sunnis, however: as the Los Angeles Times reports, "Sunnis fear that the federalism... is a trick to give Iran de facto control over the south."
But nationhood in the sense of an enduring Iraq like the one propped up by the West for so many decades might not be in the cards. If the nation-state that was once Iraq comes apart, there may be much wringing of hands not just in Washington, but also in Europe. This Euro-American gnashing of teeth notwithstanding, a disassembled Iraq would be more stable, and the payoff to the West would be less likelihood of and reason for repeated and protracted military forays into a land that has been the graveyard for many a soldier of Caucasian empires over the centuries. But the old idea of threshold size and composition for a viable state still lives in the minds of Western geo-strategists, even though that model has no empirical underpinnings when it comes to the Middle East: quite stable nations of all sizes and populations exist literally right next to one another, many of them Western creations, but many of them based upon older borders merely certified by colonialists. The nation known to current generations as Iraq was laid over a tapestry of disparate tribes, religious affiliations, and even resource distributions; and to keep it together, the West had to go from propping up one brutish puppet to another, ruling the land as each did with an iron fist.
Allowing Iraq to devolve would benefit many in that land: a major bloc in the return of a Shi'ite Caliphate would lay out from Iran to Syria; the Kurds would get a nation that could serve as the northern shard of a sorry excuse for a buffer on the Caliphate spreading to the North; and the Sunnis would be most unhappy, having rejected a nation-building constitution only to be left with the scraps of the broken state: they'd have to settle for getting what weaponry they could from resources like al-Qa'ida, the hard-core terrorist matrix that took advantage of the anarchy of the Coalition occupation to turn parts of Iraq into training grounds for their regional missions of murder.
The good news, though, is that the terrorists, themselves, would be boxed in to an extent far greater than they are now, given the way they're currently shuttling fighters from Iraq into Jordan and the Gaza Strip like there's not even a border. The map at left depicts the demographic structure of Iraq right now and, at least to some extent, hints at the way Iraq could be disassembled in a controlled shatter. The part where moderate Middle Eastern concerns come into play is in how the Sunnis, occupying the western deserts (the dark yellow area of the map) would be contained, given that they would much prefer not to have this scenario at all, and given that they would not have great incentive to assist in stabilizing the region. A close look at the map points to a perhaps grim but nontheless possible way the borders among the new Shi'ite (light purple), Sunni, and Kurdish (blue) states would go together.The sparse population of the western Iraqi desert manifestly shows the weakness of the Sunni position. All the Shi'ites would need is a defensible corridor, possibly arcing up along the ethnically mixed region (the red area of the map) that separates the Kurdish area of the North from the Sunni region in the center. The Kurds and the Turkmen might or might not be opposed to this; certainly, anything that would give them a buffer from the Sunni Arabs could be sold as a security measure, and the Shi'ites as well as the Kurds would be quite diligent in keeping them from setting foot in the corridor.
The real showstopper would be Baghdad, itself. The place is a mess, and whoever gets it would have the worst of mixed blessings: a very modern city, wrecked in large parts though it is; ethnically diverse; politically, religiously, and culturally divided along all kinds of lines. The Shi'ites would be hard-pressed to yield it to the Sunnis, and the Sunnis would have a hard time thinking of anything as desirable in exchange. As such, Baghdad becomes in this scenario the 21st Century Jerusalem.
No one would argue that the break-up would come without blood. In fact, it might even require a full-scale civil war to establish what would otherwise be the inevitable cleaving of Iraq into smaller, far more stable constituent nation-states.
Right now, there is not a "civil war" in the sense of the American version nearly a century-and-a-half ago: the War Between the States involved a breakaway republic and a long-standing, legitimate federal authority. In Iraq, the federal authority is neither long-standing nor legitimate; neither is it in any way capable of projecting armed conflict onto a battlefield against its opponents to reel them back into a nation ruled by law underpinned by a powerful and broadly recogized federal constitution. Furthermore, there is no break-away republic in Iraq: nothing exists but factional interests and a putative "federal" power dominated by one of those factional interests.
In fact, the term "civil war" in Iraq is better cast as "regional war": the Sunni Arabs are deploying forces in a guerilla conflict; the Kurds have their own loose confederation of provisional paramilitary groups, some of which operate in conjunction with the American-backed, "federal" government; and the Shi'ites are internally factionalized, with some aligning to their majority position in the federal government, with others like Moqtada al-Sadr mustering their own provisional troops as in the case of al-Sadr's Mahdi Army.
There is, then, no civil war unless one wants to hold that there is a legitimate and viable entity called "Iraq," which arguably there is not; and there never has been because the republic was artificially constructed by Western interests, and its rulers imposed binding control through unspeakable force against the people under that illegitimate rule. To fall back to the position that the United Nations and the constituent nations of the world recognized the nation of Iraq is entirely specious: the same recognition of an entirely different Iraq of four years ago belies a tendency on the part of nations the world over to accept into their ranks nominal entities, regardless of the origins and legitimacy thereof, so long as they are certified by one or more members of the league of large and powerful countries.
That the U.S. finally decided to rid itself of the last dictatorial proxy when he no longer accepted his role as a bully puppet of the West, and specifically of the United States, means the United States now must face the long-term devolution of Iraq to a more sustainable, viable configuration of republics, none of which are going to be much to mainstream American liking, given that those new republics will pursue their own interests without regard to what the Americans want or need.
This means that, one way or the other, with or without years of lost American lives, Iraq will unfold into something other than what the United States, Great Britain, and certain other European and Asian nations desire. And the longer the Coalition stays, the more that unfolding will look like an unraveling, and the more the violence of nation-building will have the appearance of the madness of civil war.
But one thing is certain: all of this would happen without the Americans there. More tragically, something like this will probably happen to a greater or lesser extent with the Americans there.
If this be the case, then the United States is serving now as the unneeded sideshow, important though it might believe it is as it fills up Arlington National Cemetery with its citizens' contribution to the Save Iraq from Itself Foundation. In the end, though, its irrelevance will come shining through as events outpace ill-conceived neo-conservative strategies. The time frame in which this irrelevance dawns upon Washington will determine how many more of those soldiers' graves will be filled.
The Dark Wraith has spoken.
This article is based upon "One of Many: Iraq Unraveling, Iraq Unfolding," written by the author and published at The UnCapitalist Journal.
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This is well written and should be plainly obvious to anyone who has spent even a little time learning about the constituencies in this part of the world.
What you suggest about a Shiite entity arcing over to Syria is most definitely NOT good news for Israeli security (they must already be painfully aware of this scenario), and therefore portends for even more instability in the years to come.
- oddjob
Good morning, OddJob. On the issue you bring up of Israel's security, it is my judgment that this is precisely why the Israelis have gone out of their way to make friends with the Kurds. Reports of IDF advisers traveling with Kurdish military contingents in the North are way too common now to be dismissed as rumor. Israel has no intention whatsoever of allowing a Caliphate—if it is to re-arise—to have all-points-on-compass running room. A buttress against it on the north side would offer not just military advantage, but also political leverage, as well.
So far, it looks like the Israelis and the Kurds are getting along pretty well; and interestingly, the Turks seem to be getting over their initial annoyance. Fascinating as it might be, Israel could end up being a diplomatic bridge between Turkey and a new Kurdistan. This would be a weird role for the Israelis, who have traditionally not been seen as particularly adept at such means of intervention. It could be, though, a golden opportunity for the Jewish State to play the role of permanent friend to mutual enemies, thereby providing a much needed stabilizing influence in a region that will otherwise remain hot for years to come.
Stranger things have happened... although I must say that these are pretty darned strange times in which we are living out our lives, OddJob.
The Dark Wraith could probably do with a little less strangeness, though.
Good Morning, Dark Wraith,
I can't help feeling that this all stems from the most incredible selfishness - american corporations have to wring the last cent out of everyone they can get their hands on.
American politicians have to be in control of everything and everyone and anyone who doesn't kowtow to them, well, we'll just send in the army, and a horde of carpetbaggers, and then we'll see who's in charge!
And god forbid anyone has a problem with this new century...
Good morning, SB Gypsy. The only good news in this is that, if the American people get tired enough of the shenanigans, those corporations could end up being left on their own in a land most hostile to their interests. It is for that reason far more than any other that the Bush Administration isn't going to let go easily: a whole lot of money is riding on Empire ensuring that its outlying provinces remain fertile for the corporate sponsors of Hegemony, Inc.
The Dark Wraith looks forward to quite a struggle to tear the neo-cons away from the beast onto which they've latched over there.
Perhaps civil war "is in the eye of the beholder":
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - "Dozens of insurgents armed with rocket-propelled grenades and assault rifles attacked police checkpoints in western Baghdad on Wednesday in some of the heaviest street fighting the capital has seen in months".
http://tinyurl.com/b92yj
Freedom is on the March, Peter.
The Dark Wraith is taking a liking to some of those Republican Hallmark-card sayings.
Freedom is on the March
Indeed....
- oddjob
Geez, OddJob, that cartoon looks like it was made for this article.
The Dark Wraith is amused.
This Euro-American gnashing of teeth notwithstanding, a disassembled Iraq would be more stable,
And what exactly would a Shi'ite south aligned to Iran mean for Saudi Arabia's stability, hmmm?
Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia - that'd be an Axis that might upset a few in the West.
Good evening, Phoenician.
Stability in the context of that sentence referred to the stability of the republics so formed. Whether or not the region would be more stable would be another consideration, although I cannot imagine more instability being conferred than what has happened with the American occupation of Iraq.
I would not be particularly concerned about Saudi Arabia in this equation, anyway. That country is armed to the teeth, primarily with American-made weaponry. The internal strife being caused by al-Qa'ida cells is not as significant as some journalists in the West have cast it. The House of Saud is in no danger of falling, and even if it were to become politically unstable through trouble-making by an emerging Caliphate, it has more allies than most people in the West know.
In fact, in terms of regional stability, a Shi'ite dominance on the southeastern side of the region would create the old-style stability that served rather well for many decades in other parts of the world, and even in the Middle East. In the old, Cold War parlance, we called it "balance of power": Shi'ite Caliphate to the southeast and east, pro-Western Muslim/Jewish power axis to the west and arcing all the way up and around to the north.
If Iran gets around to building those nuclear weapons, both sides would have the capability of wiping each other out were either to make adventurism too much a staple of foreign policy. And given that no one is quite insane enough to actually use such weapons offensively (except for the neo-con maniacs in the White House), the broad region we call the "Middle East," including a good part of Asia Minor, could be just a happy, stable house full of people who don't particularly like each other at all, but who also don't want to irritate anyone else enough to get turned into a parking lot.
Balance of power, Phoenician.
The Dark Wraith sheds a tear of nostalgia.
In fact, Phoenician, consider this map of the intermediate alliance structures after the break-up of Iraq. That tan area in the middle is the rump republic of Sunni Muslim Iraq that would remain. Notice that it sits in a miserable position: no oil, Shi'ites (in light purple) pinching it one way, and Pro-Western republics (in blue) pinching it another way. By religion, the Sunnis would ally to the Saudis; by political affiliation, they would ally to the Syrians. And worst of all, there's just about no oil under them.
Understand that the coloration simplifies what would obviously be tensions among those within a given grouping; but the very presence of an expansionary Iranian/Shi'ite Iraqi/Syrian axis would be a compelling force binding the others to a common task of maitaining a box on the hegemonic aspirations of the Iranian mullahs.
All of that having been said, and back to the point, I would submit to you that, not only would the Sunnis not be in a position to stir up trouble, but they would essentially find their sad little republic being used as the weaponry soccer field in a push back and forth between the Pro-Western forces and the Shi'ite Caliphate forces.
Miserable situation, that. If they caused trouble for either side, they'd end up getting pounded into hamburger: both sides of that balance of power would dearly love the Sunnis to provide an excuse for an invasion.
Of course, this is just one of many scenarios that could play out, and many of them would have far different outcomes from what I am proposing. Strange things can happen.
Why, as a matter of fact, it might even end up being the case that everything works out just like the American neo-cons thought it would.
Or not.
The Dark Wraith just made a funny.
hmmmmm.....i can rarely say something like this about the dark one, but i believe your logic to be skewed.
iraq has been a secular state for a long time. many of its citizens consider themselves iraqis before their religious afiliation is considered. from the many documentaries i've watched concerning iraq, they can be very nationalistic.
if the country does blow apart, i can't imagine the kurds with their own state. the sunnis would crush them. the turks would help them. the turks don't want the kurds to get all that oil revenue while the kurds consider about 1/3 of turkey to be part of kurdistan.
i also believe that the sirian leadership would back their iraqi b'athist brothers.
too many people consider muslims to be religious fundamentalist savages while in reality many iraqis are very well educated. iraq had good schools, universities, and a healthcare system most yanks could only dream of.
it is definitely a huge mess that should be pacified by muslim troops under the UN banner with about a trillion dollars of war reparations from the US to rebuild the place.
hey! that was me, the ghost.
The other thing I myself am not certain of regarding this scenario is the unease of two other states regarding a Kurdistan. Kurds live not only in eastern Turkey & northern Iraq; they also live in northeastern Syria and northwestern Iran.
I don't know how those two would feel about a "Kurdistan", knowing full well that their own Kurds also living where they are yet also regard themselves as living in Kurdistan.
Makes for uncertainties as to Syria's & Iran's borders, no?
On a regional level, were this scenario to play out more or less as imagined by DW, I wonder how Afghanistan & Pakistan interact with it. I can't believe they would not, somehow or other.
- oddjob
Good Morning, Dark Wraith,
Instead of expecting Turkish Kurds and Syrian Kurds to immediately insist on carving out portions of their countries to add to a liberated Kurdistan, could you not see them simply packing up and moving to the new state, in order to fully participate in Kurdistaniness?
Good morning, SB Gypsy.
That's exactly the "final solution" that I think would work. Essentially, Kurdistan would be the "homeland" to which they could migrate. It would certainly solve Syria's and Turkey's problems with restive Kurdish minorities.
The concern for both Syria and Turkey would be that this Kurdistan would have an incentive not to pose as a homeland, but rather would want the Kurds of Syria and Turkey to stay put to legitimize a claim to territories within the two countries.
It seems to me that both Syria and Turkey, using the establishment of Kurdistan as a pre-text, would have at least some incentive to simply force patriation to the Kurdish homeland. Unfortunately, in that scenario, those Syrian and Turkish Kurds would then make some kind of long-term howl about "their" lost claims to land in the two countries of origination.
Messy.
There is no doubt, however, that Turkey and Syria are none to happy about any republic of Kurdistan, be it under an Iraqi federation or otherwise. If the United States can stop being a belligerent jackass that thinks everything has a military solution, it can offer to work with the European Union as a guarantor of border integrity and non-belligerence for all parties, ensuring that some international treaty framework exists to keep everyone from each other's throats.
That, as I just noted, would require the United States to operate as a diplomatic force rather than as a blustering bully.
In other words, as long as the Bush Administration holds control in Washington, it won't happen. That means it will be up to the European Union and perhaps even Israel (!) to be the brokers of record in a final settlement.
It won't come for years, even under the most ideal of settings, but it can be achieved; and, I would argue, the stability of the region would be far greater than it will under this Iraqi "federation" dog the Americans and British are ramming down everyone's throat.
More importantly, here's a question for you, SB Gypsy: what is the predominant religious affiliation of the Kurds?
The answer to that question offers a window on a possible stabilizing force even broader than I have thus far outlined. The circumstances of alliance would be difficult, particularly in light of events and politics of the past; but that religious affiliation and what it means could—and I emphasize could—offer an incredible bonus if played properly by all sides.
The Dark Wraith awaits.
Good morning, Lenin's Ghost.
There is no question that the Islamists in particular and the Iraqis in general are highly intelligent, educated peoples. This has been true throughout history: scholarship and worldly understanding were hallmarks of the "Saracens" and other peoples of the Middle East even as Europe suffered "dark ages" in the centuries following the collapse of the Roman Empire.
As I noted above, Turkey is going to be none too thrilled about any republic of Kurdistan; but I would argue that, if Turkey can be guaranteed that the Kurds will exchange a homeland for claims to part of Turkey, the latter would have all kinds of incentive to agree. This is essentially what will be the outcome of Palestinian/Israeli conflicts: the Palestinians surrender claim to Israel as "theirs" in exchange for borders that are secure and internationally recognized. Whether or not Israel will respect that remains to be seen, and this is for the same reason that trouble could arise in the Turkey/Kurdistan situation: provisional forces in both Kurdistan and Palestine will want desperately to continue their respective fights, and cross-border attacks will give the offended country an excuse to violate the borders and occupy the new nation that nominally "sponsored" the "terrorists."
That's where EU and possibly even UN troops would come into play, and for a very long time: long enough for the hotheads to all die off and new generations to come along that aren't dedicated to continuing an old fight that long ago lost its steam.
As far as the Sunnis going after the Kurds, don't bet on it. The Kurds have a far better, more experienced, better armed military capability than the Sunni Arabs do. And as long as the Sunnis can stay boxed in, they'll be unable to build anything more than a post-guerilla type of army. Despite all the talk about how effective those types of warriors are in pitched-battle conflicts with occupiers, in general they suck in an organized, regulated army of a true republic. They're not going to pose a serious threat to the Kurds for another reason, as well: Israel is actively engaged in training and working with Kurdish militias; and say what you want about the IDF, it does a great job of exporting military know-how: look at what their training did for Central American dictatorships in the 1980s. (Oh, some people say that's still conspiracy theory stuff, don't they? My bad.)
Naw, the Sunnis are going to be unhappy campers, but they're not going to be powerful. If they have the sense they were born with—and this is going to take perhaps decades to gel—they're going to eventually ally themselves to the pro-Western forces. But that will take a long time to work out.
And that takes us to your point about the secular and nationalistic tendencies of Iraqis. I do not see Iraqis being too misty-eyed about the old concept of "Iraq," especially if they are offered a more compact, clearly ethnically identifiable republic to which they can pledge their various allegiances. More importantly, although nationalism has been important to Iraqis, any such perception must be understood in the context of an out-and-out dictatorship that ruled the land for many decades. You'll find rampant nationalism in just about every dictatorship; and it's not about the dictator, it's about the sense of unity, maybe even the unity of suffering under the tyrannical rule.
Strip away the veneer of overpowering authority, and a far more ancient structuring of affiliations will re-emerge, almost like magic to those who don't understand the peoples. The alliances that are by far the strongest are those of kin and clan. We in the West, especially in the America of "higher" culture, have simply and utterly lost that concept. We just have. I, myself, have been treated quite dismissively by my peers because I see blood as so fundamentally important to affiliation. I grew up in an old, germanic family; and I came of age in rural America where blood, kinships, and rituals of bringing blood to blood mattered; but they don't to most Americans. (Interestingly, they sure do to urban gangs: I saw this first-hand and up-close in my down years as an urban ghetto schol teacher.)
But blood and clan do matter to Iraqis; and if you put a "nation" of "Iraq" before a republic where blood clans and tribal affiliations are much clearer and less blended, you'll see the a slow disintegration as the clans work to one extent or another for their own and against those who are far from kin.
And make no mistake, Lenin's Ghost. This is not a sign of some "primitiveness" or of my assignment of some "low" status to the peoples of that land. As I said, in my mind, blood matters; and a nation that dismisses its importance drifts into a modernity that will constantly be torn by twisted, religious and other cultist interests that provide surrogates.
That is the Dark Wraith's word on the matters under discussion.
Wouldn't a Sunni state be about as much of a breeding ground for terrorists as the Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, if not worse? Both the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are Sunni. I guess the question is, would any surrounding entity(Shi'ites, Kurds, Saudi's) do a damn thing to stop them? Or would the West "have" to step in to prevent Afghanistan II?
lowlyredstater
I wouldn't be surprised to find educated Baghdadis who are less committed to ethnicity and other such matters of tribalism (another way of saying "blood") or kinship, but even there I suspect that in a societal breakdown such as they're experiencing they are going to be left with kin as the only thing that will get them through.
An American comedian (I forget whom, although I seem to recall it's one of the Smothers) once said something to the effect that, "Family is, when you have nowhere else to go, they have to take you in."
That's why tribalism survives as a human existence paradigm.
Unfortunately it also often fosters unreasoning fear of "the other".
- oddjob
Good afternoon, Lowly Red Stater. It's good to see you here. Now, I expect a report on my desk by tomorrow morning about where you've been and what you've been up to.
As I noted, the Sunnis are going to continue to be troublemakers for some time to come. For one thing, Saddam Hussein's family in Jordan is apparently feeding the Sunni component of the insurgency. Also, so long as the Sunnis feel like they're being backed to the wall, they're going to be vulnerable to affiliation with much more radical interests, including those of what has now become institutionally declared as "al-Qa'ida."
Containment is part of the solution. If we want to avoid direct military intervention, covert operations are also going to be the order of the day; but if we're going to engage in that kind of dirty work, we need to be far more effective than we have been in recent years. That means the CIA needs to move more fully out of the Cold War, when we could field spies that looked like us because the bad guys looked like us. This is a new era, and we can't be having a spy network made up of Caucasian men who wear suits. And it's not enough to have "assets" and "correspondents" in the ranks of the natives of the land: we need our own people there, not people whose allegiances and alliances are open to nuances and interpretations.
More importantly, we need to have non-ideologues in control: just because Ahmed Chalabi told the neo-cons what they wanted to hear didn't mean he was telling the truth.
The point here is, Lowly Red Stater, that we must deal with a complex world in a complex and thoughtful manner. At the level of covert operations, we cannot be terribly swayed by arguments that "self-determination" is always best, at least not best for our interests. We cannot, however, simply go with the Bush Administration's mentality that "what's right for MegaCorp. is right for America," either. Again, we must think.
If the Sunnis need to be kept with their backs to the wall for several generations, so be it. If the Kurds get out of line, scare them a little bit by hinting at disengagement. If al-Qa'ida becomes something more than a violent and destructive annoyance, then find some countries from which they're projecting terror and give them "incentives" to tear down the bases of operation.
As cold as all of this sounds, it's the way we keep the world from blowing up, and it's the way we advance our interests without throwing away thousands of young American lives to fatten the pockets of American corporations and sick, overseas interests that don't give a rat's ass about us in the final analysis.
Although in the short run, the Sunnis are going to be put upon, we can provide accommodations that lessen the burden they'll face in their corner of the new matrix. We cannot make them suffer except to the extent that they want to suffer.
Unfortunately, the neo-cons have set in motion events that have inexorably altered the course of Middle East history.
Now, we're going to have to clean up the mess they've made because they weren't nearly bright enought to have been allowed near the reins of power that they took. In the end, even if we're successful in stabilizing the region—however that stable, enduring structure works out—I am certain the neo-cons will claim the success as being theirs.
But we'll know differently. Children should never be allowed to play with fire; and even if a new and beautiful forest comes after kids playing with matches have burned to the ground the original forest and all of its life, they can be permitted no claim to what arose from the ashes of their stupidity.
It is for us, then, to ensure that history repudiates them, their folly, and their destructive conflagration.
The Dark Wraith will do his part in this regard.
Consortiumnews.com has a number of recent articles on Iraq that are worth reading.
Good Morning, Drak Wraith,
...long enough for the hotheads to all die off and new generations to come along that aren't dedicated to continuing an old fight that long ago lost its steam.
The problem with this is that they are not the same as we who have miniscule attention spans. They are still fighting over things that happened hundreds of years ago(Sunni vs shi'ia, Israel vs Moslem). They show no signs of coming to any permanent peace, or even truce. Perhaps the only thing that could cause a truce is to give them a common enemy (us). But, after we're gone...
With the fresh round of killings throughout the country(and I'm not talking about our people) there's a fresh round of reasons to keep the hatred flowing. As you said earlier, the blood ties bind closer. When they loose anyone, it is more a matter of a feud than "Oh well, what a shame".
America produced their own version - the Hatfields and the McCoys - which went on for many years, with many deaths.
"... This is a new era, and we can't be having a spy network made up of Caucasian men who wear suits.
The problem with this administration is that they've marginalized anyone who knows what they're doing - especially those in the intelligence community. They don't think that a field agent in charge of an area needs to know even the rudiments of the culture of those that they are spying on. They've passed over specialists with long years of experience, and knowledge of language and customs, in order to place people with political ties in positions of authority.
For this reason, the intelligence coming out of these areas is marginal, and the influence that we could have had has been nullified.
We are also missing the boat in Iran. By all accounts, we should be soft selling ourselves to the youth of that country, yet the Bushco admin cannot think past 3 months out, never mind 20-30 yrs in the future.
Will disasters never stop piling up in the wake of this administration???
thx for your comments, dark one.
i don't believe the sunnis will be as ueless as you think. they may get support from the saudis and/or their b'athist bros from syria. i'm sure they have large amounts of currency at their disposal from saddam's regime.
however things go, it will be messy.
i think you are correct about a generation of cooling off. this will only work if these people aren't oppressed by the good folks keeping them cool. all we need is another corporate sponsored IMF/world bank disaster where they are forced to "sell their soul to the company store" situation.
Good evening, Lenin's Ghost.
You raise an important point about the international financiers circling in the sky. It won't be the IMF that handles Iraq's republics; it will be the World Bank. Worse, it will be the World Bank under the control of arch-neo-con Paul Wolfowitz, late of his disastrous tour with the Bush Administration and fresh into his new career projecting the failed neo-con Theory of Everything into the global financing markets.
The IMF and the World Bank have been disastrous for many countries at the level of the indigenous peoples and the environment, and just you watch how they make bad situations worse as they try to use financial levers to maintain American quasi-colonial control over that region of the Middle East.
There is, however, a brake that will come to bear on all of this. I hope to finish writing an article to publish this weekend about a pair of trains that are steam-rolling down the tracks towards each other.
If all goes right, I'll be unfurling the flag of Really Gut-Wrenching Scenarios on Sunday night, and we'll see how crazy my story sounds. (Even I don't know, yet.) There are several ways the story could play out, and not one of them is good.
The Dark Wraith prepares once again to bring hope, cheer, and happy news to the Blogosphere.
My guess is they involve the planned Iranian oil bourse, yes?
- oddjob
Aw, confounded it, OddJob, you blew my plot!
Well, I guess astute people who are keeping an eye on the Middle East already know about the oil bourse. It's going to create the quiet economic equivalent of a tsunami, and the mainstream media is going to treat it as just another little story in one or two news cycles, sort of like George Bush falling off his bicycle.
The difference is that doofus got back on his bike; but not only will the U.S. not get back on its 10-speed, it'll find that the chain has been taken off and wrapped around our collective financial neck.
The change that is coming will be significant, and it will come like an unstoppable surge building over a period that will be measured not in decades or even years, but rather in quarters and months.
Unless...
The Dark Wraith doesn't want to give away any more of the plot.
Sorry, DW, you only have yourself to blame for posting it in your headline news function on the message board. Had you not done that I wouldn't have known about this.
After paying attention to the information you've already relayed about the significance of a major commodity not necessarily trading any longer in dollars, I can connect the rest of the dots myself.
- oddjob
Now as you might recall, OddJob, the last oil-producing country that began the process of moving oil contracts from dollar denomination to denomination in another currency was Iraq under Saddam Hussein, circa 2002.
We all know what happened to Iraq.
The Dark Wraith is, of course, always seeing connections where none actually exist, though.
Oh, and I almost forgot, OddJob: I'm sure Venezuela would be thrilled have its oil trade on a bourse with a currency or market basket of currencies that weren't so intimately connected to a flagging, beligerent empire. For one thing, it wouldn't be so necessarily convenient for Venezuela to have to sell its oil into the country in which the value of the commodity was being denominated.
I suppose a really loopy conspiracy theorist might see that as one of the reasons behind the escalating, anti-Chavez, run-up-to-war rhetoric coming from the White House and certain pulpits these days.
But again, the Dark Wraith is always seeing connections where none actually exist.
[Economics: you can't live with it, and you don't have good reasons for war without it.]
[Economics: you can't live with it, and you don't have good reasons for war without it.]
Just another datum proving why whoever gave it the nickname "the dismal science" did a very good job in the naming!
- oddjob
Oh, and while it's OT (& better posted on the message board), Pat R. has found a way to salvage his reputation from redemption by "clarifying" his apology into something much more like a non-apology. He's done this by linking his statement with those of Rev. Bonhoeffer of the Hitler assassination plot.
Classy, huh?
- oddjob
Some people really do have the knack, don't they?
dark one.....i thought the purpose of the IMF and world bank to further US (multinational?) economic colonialism.
aaaahh....what do i know? ....but i'm slowly learning.;)
eagerly acticipating your next blog.
Actually, I'll publish the economic analysis a bit later in the week. I first wanted to jump on the fresh news story about Able Danger and Condoleeza Rice that has a definite conspiracy theory undercurrent to it.
Good conspiracy theory fodder definitely ages well, but there's also something to be said for freshness.
The Dark Wraith can't help but appreciate these neo-cons for fostering so many grapevines of wraith... er wrath.