Group Begins War on Social Security Privatization
In contrast to this open opposition to the radical restructuring of Social Security is the subdued, behind-the-scenes support being provided by lobbyists for the banking and securities industries, which will stand to benefit enormously from what could be described as a $2 trillion jobs program for their member firms. Fearing public backlash if they appear too eager for the overhaul to get underway, bankers and stockbrokers must craft an outward appearance of disinterest while at the same time making it clear to key lawmakers that they are highly interested in passage of the necessary legislation.
It is unlikely that the AARP and other advocacy groups opposed to the partial privatization of the New Deal-era Social Security Trust would be able to spend anywhere near the money that financial institutions can bring to bear on waivering Congressmen. However, the AARP's publicity may put pressure on Congress to ask hard questions of the Administration:
- What impact will the government's borrowing of up to $2 trillion to overhaul the program do to interest rates already beginning to rise because of historically large budget deficits the Bush Administration and its Congressional allies chalked up during Bush's first term? With foreign lenders to the U.S. government showing worrisome signs of disinterest in continuing to finance the deficit spending of the federal government, the U.S. Treasury might find itself being forced to pay interest rates that could increase the total cost of the program even more, while simultaneously driving the economy into deep recession because of the high cost of borrowing that businesses and consumers would face.
- What will the government do under a partial privatization for those whose investments don't perform well? Either through unwise portfolio construction or by a serious downturn in the stock market, large numbers of people now in their prime working years could find themselves in very difficult economic circumstances should the funds they invest for retirement not provide adequate yields.
- To what extent will other alterationslike increasing the retirement agestill have to be instituted? Many critics of the proposed partial privatization note that projected shortfalls in the past have been well managed by incremental and modest increases in Social Security taxes and the age at which prospective retirees may begin collecting Social Security payments. Already, some insiders are saying that the age at which workers can become beneficiaries will be raised, despite the partial privatization.
With advocacy groups bringing these and other problems of the Republican plan to the attention of average Americans, the White House may find that the Social Security issue dominates its attention for the foreseeable future and swiftly burns up what political capital the ruling party in Washington has to spare.
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Awww, the government is distracted from its quest of world domination and has to spend money to counter what the AARP has to say?
Too bad.
Aren't retirees known for leaning republican? This should get interesting. Maybe senior citizens aren't as gullible as Bush was counting on, after all.
wiseguy
Good evening, Wise Guy.
When it comes to a fight between a mob of senior citizens and a cabal of zealots, I am not all that certain about the outcome.
But I'll bet it's going to be a darned good brawl.
The Dark Wraith grabs a seat at ringside.
Oh, yes.
From this quiet night on the edge of the many gathering storms of our time, the Dark Wraith wishes all of you the best for this new year.
May you all be safe and well.
For me to see a organized and fearless group of people starting a fight against your government is the best way to start the new year. This makes me have hope that the true America is still alive and is starting to, or will, kick back and not gently or kindly. And to see the true spirit of America alive (and what makes it great), it's people, sure makes me hopefull of the future even with so many dark clouds in the horizon. And it is also great to see the elderly giving a lesson to newer, acommodated, generations...
Speaking as a: retiree, social security recipient, and the grandfather of at least 5, I'm horrified by the thought that they'll mess around with a system that will be supposedly in good shape for another 50 years. Wraith, I'm kind of a rookie at econ, having preferred in my younger days to pursue an "artistic" career. So help me out here on the math. If the taxable max earnings ceiling was raised from $87,900(?) to say $100,000, and everything else remained the same (COLAs, eligibility age, inflation, etc.), how far into the future past 2054 would the system be "safe", for want of a better word? Or is that too simple? The rate of 7.6% on $12,100 is a little over $900 and I have to ask a semi-rhetorical question: What's $900 to somebody knocking down a hundred grand? Again, too simple?
Good evening, Peter of Lone Tree.
Bingo. You hit on one of the most obvious components of a sound and enduring solution. As the system is now set, there is a cap on the income that is subject to the Social Security tax. The justification for this is that, above a certain level of income, the value of the stream of payments a beneficiary would receive doesn't justify a tax that would be more immediately (during the person's working life) far greater.
That logic is just plain at odds with the rest of our tax policy. Many people pay far more in taxes of all kinds than they receive in benefits from those taxes. Similarly, many people receive far more in benefits than they pay in taxes. The whole system works so that these "loss" and "win" scenarios average each other out at both the personal and the societal levels, and the country is better off for every one of its citizens being willing to take the negatives along with the positives.
Why should a fellow who makes a million dollars a year pay Social Security tax on that entire million dollars? That's easy: Social Security is a societal trust that exists not for his exclusive benefit, nor even for the exclusive benefit of his cohort group; rather, it exists for all Americans of all eras.
Anyone who imagines that his or her existence, alone, justifies the rights conferred by a benevolent and just society needs to do no more than look around, and especially look back through time, to see that the good any one person might think he or she does is not enough to be called legacy. It is in that way that we may reasonablyand I dare say, rightlyaccept a government's expectation that we shall contribute proportionately to the pension fund even as our payments would exceed anything we could hope to get in our old age from it.
To your question, then, I would answer that, were the FICA deduction to have no cap, Social Security would be solvent for the projectable future. If we were to hold on to the idea of a cap, any shortfalls over the next fifty years would be closed were the tax to be applied to income up to about $250,000. I could do some more precise and better calculations that might change that solvency cap, but I think it's in the ballpark of a level that would ensure solvency and continuity in the program for a very long time to come. I am not excited about the idea of simply raising the tax rate without also raising the cap, but the calculation gets a little complicated because, putting both of them on the tableraising the cap and the tax ratemeans that you end up with a "parametric" equation: give me one of the two parameters (say, a rate increase of 1.1%), and I can give you the other (in that case, maybe a cap of $150,000 of income).
But any way you cut it, tearing the system apart and putting the nation in debt another maybe $2 trillion dollars surely qualifies as "radical" when tried-and-true alternatives are right there, waiting to be used.
Then again, the Administration's proposal really has nothing to do with "fixing" an old-age pension program upon which the American public has relied for generations; instead, it has everything to do with "fixing" a benevolent society the radical Right hates.
The Dark Wraith has blogged for a while.
...and the country is better off for every one of its citizens being willing to take the negatives along with the positives.
You can postulate that for taxes if you want, but please don't extend that opinion to the leadership (such as it is) of this country.
Speaking of the elderly giving lessons, a group called Veterans For Peace has announced that come Inauguration Day, if the President doesn't make an announcement within 10 days of inauguration to withdraw troops within 60 days, they will begin motions for impeachment.
Full article here.wiseguy
Good evening, Wise Guy.
I used to be associated with some of the more... shall we say... "activist" veterans who didn't think much of wars. (It's sort of a personal thing with some folks who've seen death, destruction, and general mayhem.) I can assure you that, when those kinds of cats get worked up, they can be a pretty weird bunch of characters. So much so that, in fact, one of those guys I knew was from time to time rousted from his bed in the middle of the night by Secret Service agents. One such incident occurred when President Reagan was going to show up in town the next day. My friend, his wife, and their daughter got tossed around pretty good. So did their apartment.
He was out of sorts about the incident for days. I recall suggesting to him that he was being fragile about the lack of companionship the agents had offered. That just got him more upset. I should note that he wasn't a person who handled being upset very well at all.
Now, insofar as a troop withdrawal goes, Bush and Rumsfeld are already setting the stage for something they might do in a couple of months. You see, the neo-con theoreticians have been hard at work trying to figure out a plan that would save them from appearing to have been the biggest idiots in the history of political theory with their ill-advised global hegemony that started with (and, we should hope, ended in) Iraq. What they have come up with is yet another of their let's-try-something-so-stupid-it-might-actually-work schemes: right now, in the neo-con journals, many of them are saying that we should just pull all but a token force of our troops out of Iraq right after those phony elections over there. Let the Iraqis work it all out for themselves, and at the same time, get the U.S. and its troops out of the crosshairs.
Rumsfeld, on his visit last week to Iraq, hinted at just this possible exit strategy when he was addressing some U.S. soldiers and said something to the effect that the Iraqis have to figure out immediately how to defend themselves and their new way of life. (He forgot to mention how the Iraqis are going to work out that little problem with hundreds of thousands of pounds of explosives we failed to secure and destroy that are now in the hands of people who like to make things go BOOM around innocent people.)
Nice.
The last time we left a country to figure out how to solve its own problems, the North Vietnamese overran Saigon within days. Fortunately, on the global stage, those cats were pretty meaningless, having alienated everyone from the French to the Communist Chinese. (The North Vietnamese way of handling their newly-conquered peoples was a bit on the harsh side; but apparently, our government didn't really care enough to worry much about that when we were bugging out, although some NGOs did get more than a few of our allies out of there.)
The situation in Iraq is far different. First of all, we wiped out the sworn enemies that pinned Iran in on the West and the East (respectively, the Taliban and Hussein). We now have the Shi'ites in Iraq on the verge of majority control of the country, and they will have no qualms about getting right into bed with their fellow Shi'ites in Iran. We have a mess in the Kurdish areas with the Israelis getting really buddy-buddy with the Kurds, who scare the crap out of Turkey, which recently chilled what was a budding friendship with Israel. And finally, we have the Sunni Muslims who are feeling very left out of the political process (having been the ruling sect under Hussein) spearheading the insurgency within the country.
Oh, yes, I almost forgot: our old friend, Ahmed Chalabi, who was responsible for pouring lies to the neo-cons in government and the saps like Judith Miller in the media, is now being rehabilitated as a viable candidate to lead a powerful, elected faction. This despite the fact that he is probably a spy for Iran.
And I should mention that Iran really is developing a nuclear weapon; but that isn't the worst of it: they have recently tested an "upgrade" to their third-generation delivery vehicle, the "Meteor III." Unfortunately, insiders say this missile is not really a "Meteor III-B," at all, because it looks like the thing can reach Europe. That would make put it in the Mark IV class of intermediate-range ballistic missiles.
In other words, a bunch of really, really stupid neo-cons, using an even stupider Texan, have made a really, really big mess of the world.
Ya gotta love it.
Anyway, any attempt to impeach a United States President must arise from within the House of Representatives, which would draw up Articles of Impeachment. I don't see any Congressman having the guts to even suggest such an idea; and even if substantive movement were to take place, the Republican leadership would not allow it to go anywhere, despite what a surprising number of constitutional scholars and observers claim are solid grounds for impeachment.
Do not despair, though, my friend: something is going to happen, but it will be after the mid-term Elections in 2006. The threads of it are now brewing; but it will be nothing but a weird little backwater in the Blogosphere until it suddenly, and quite inexplicably, bursts forth as a "crisis" and a "scandal" more than a year from now.
Is that wishful thinking? Perhaps.
Then again, perhaps not.
The Dark Wraith blogs onward.
Shrub's allies in Soc. Sec. destruction may not be as quiet as you think. See this from the Sunday Boston Globe.
Democratic point man on Soc. Sec., Rep. Robert Matsui (D-CA) dies at 63 from complications of a rare bone marrow cancer.
- oddjob
one of those guys I knew was from time to time rousted from his bed in the middle of the night by Secret Service agents. One such incident occurred when President Reagan was going to show up in town the next day.
In '93 I lived for six months in Dover, DE, often listening to a small radio talk station there. That was the only time I've ever regularly heard G. Gordon Liddy's nationally syndicated show. He often used to speak of his days as a Secret Service agent, and at least once mentioned that when he was in the Sec. Svc. (early 60's I think) it was routine for them to arrive in advance of a presidential visit and find out from the local authorities which of the local folks might be "problems". They then would find ways to make sure those people couldn't harm the President while he was in town.
Since he said that over the airwaves I assume this is public information.
- oddjob
Good morning, OddJob.
The way that ill-treated friend of mine hollered and bawled at the local diner about his run-ins with the Secret Service, I am in no doubt whatsoever that it was public knowledge to every living soul in the whole county.
The Dark Wraith still grimaces.
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