Federal Deduction for State & Local Taxes Eyed for Elimination
Initiated at the end of the 1960s, the AMT was instituted to ensure that wealthy Americans had to pay some federal tax regardless of the extent and effectiveness of the tax shelters they used to shield their income from taxation. It has been claimed that, in recent years, the AMT has been hitting upper-middle income individuals and families just as hard as, if not harder than, it has been hitting the wealthy. Because the AMT has not been indexed adequately to inflation, taxpayers whose incomes have not risen extraordinarily in "real" (constant dollar) terms have nonetheless seen their incomes rise sufficiently in nominal terms to fall within the provisions of the AMT.
Although certified public accountants who prepare personal tax returns have indicated that they are seeing this more and more, some opponents of the Administration argue that, instead of eliminating the tax, it should merely be recalibrated so it again serves its original purpose of making the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Abolishing the tax, critics point out, will benefit the truly wealthy far more than it will help the upper-middle class; and such a restructuring of the tax code is yet another expression of the Bush Administration's long-suspected interest in promoting policies—especially tax policies—that benefit the rich.
Furthermore, eliminating the federal tax deductibility of state and local taxes will have considerable adverse impact on upper-middle income taxpayers, who are very likely to claim this deduction when preparing their Form 1040s. Some observers have pointed out that high-income Americans sometimes don't even pay state and/or local taxes, so eliminating the deduction would have no impact on them. President George W. Bush, who for years lived most of the time in the state of Maine, stayed in Texas long enough each year to meet that state's minimum residency requirements and therefore enjoyed the benefit of the Lone Star state's absence of a state tax.
A few of the harsher critics of the Administration have also pointed out that the elimination of the federal tax deduction for state and local taxes will have a considerably higher incidence of adverse impact in those states that went to Bush's challenger in the 2004 Presidential Election. Upper-middle income taxpayers are far more concentrated in so-called "blue" states like New York, Massachusetts, and California than they are in so-called "red" states like Alabama, Kansas, and Wyoming.
A spokesperson for the Treasury Department, which is considering the changes to the Internal Revenue Code, denied any malevolent, punitive motivations behind the plan to eliminate the deduction. He further denied any ulterior motive to benefit wealthy supporters of Republicans behind wiping out the Alternative Minimum Tax. Despite such official denials, skeptical observers remain unconvinced.
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Taxes. Now there's a topic sure to stir the ire of many (and I'll help a little).
The tax code in this country is blatanly unfair. Why should you or I pay any more or any less tax than the next person? It should be overhauled into a flat tax, even if it is one step at a time.
Part of the problem is that we have a bloated government that has gotten fat and happy feeding off of our money. Cut the pork, cut the subsidies, cut the waste.... Enough is enough. Make government at all levels accoutable for reducing budgets to fit reduced taxes. Right, like that will ever happen.
This country has turned into a big sheep ranch. You have some of the little lambs being led off to slaughter; the rest of us are standing in line to have our hair sheared because momma needs a wool coat every year. The problem is that few seem to find fault in that scenario. They're more worried that the rancher is going to shear more or less hair on any one sheep, rather than realizing that momma doesn't really need a new coat every year.
Good morning, Mr. Goat.
Now, that was a rather refreshingly unexpected rejoinder. Although you might find considerable disagreement on certain points you madeparticularly concerning the desirability of a progressive marginal tax structureI never cease to be surprised by how many people, liberal or conservative, tend to have what could legitimately be called "Classical Conservative" underpinnings in their sentiments about economic matters.
It is terribly unfortunate that, for more than two decades now (approaching four if we count the rise of the monetarists who wanted to meddle in social policy), the term "conservative" has been increasingly hijacked by a cabal of religious extremists, neo-cons, and assorted no-government-is-good-government sorts, all to the end of making it unwise to even touch policy positions that sound on the surface like something one of the New Right members would say: their ilk has made just about every kind of debate radioactive among progressives of all stripes
One of the undesirable consequences of this is that meaningful discussion cannot be carried out, discussion that would help shape and refine strong, internally consistent positions among reasonable people. Even I avoid speaking in some situations about policy options that would bring in elements of Classical Conservatism, lest I stir up a parade of people I really don't want tooting their horns behind me.
It's one thing to be the marshal of a colorful parade; it's quite another, however, to lead the kazoo section.
The Dark Wraith twirls the baton.
As someone who's most challenging experience with taxes is getting my TaxCut programs to work for me in early April, I have a question or two..
First, if the state of Texas has no state taxes, how do they generate revenue for roads, schools, police and fire protection, etc? Also, regarding the federal tax deductibility of state and local taxes, how does that work? Are state/local taxes currently fully deductible for individuals against their federal taxes? More importantly, do businesses enjoy a similar deduction? Therefore, would such a repeal create a "race to the bottom" insofar as local and state taxes go, as states and localities try to attract or keep businesses in their areas by lowering their taxes, thus destroying the infrastructure of the community?
I fully agree with you regarding meaningful discussion, not only for the reason you give, but also because of the other side of the coin too. That is the use of the word liberal in a less than complimentary way.
Really though, this issue goes a whole lot deeper than the hijacking of terms and changing definitions. I would say it emanates from the two party system. My personal belief is that the two party system is killing this country. Why? Because a party is nothing more than a special interest group that sound bites whatever they think will win the next election, without really giving a shit about the constituency. How many elected politicians really seem to focus on the constituents instead of the party?
Try holding your meaningful discussion with them by interjecting a different idea, that's when your kazoo section shows up.
Good evening, LindiBee.
In summary, the money that a taxpayer has paid in state and local taxes can be subtracted from his or her taxable income on the Form 1040. This obviously reduces the federal tax bill. You must appreciate, though, that taking this deductionas well as othersmeans that the taxpayer is giving up the so-called "standard deduction." That means you won't see your average working Joe doing this; the standard deduction is a far better deal. It's only when your itemized deductions get really big that the line is crossed where it's better to keep receipts, itemize, do all the stupid extra forms, and such.
Taking away the right for people to deduct their state and local tax payments won't affect most people. However, the ones it will affect are those in a curious income tier where there is a high probability of advanced education, liberal political leanings, and some degree of group influence on issues, especially at the local level, which percolates up to influence in state legislatures, which articulates to state governors and U.S. Congressional representatives.
Interesting chain, isn't it? Punishing these people, who are largely blue-staters, not only teaches them a lesson where it hurts (the wallet is such a tender spot), it also throws a nice little tidbit of red meat to the hard social Rightists of the Republican Party, who still think they need to have their victories in petty little pitched battles.
Now, how do states without taxes get by? Well, just because those states don't tax income doesn't mean they don't have all kinds of other ways to raise revenue by means ranging from taxes on gasoline to licence fees and regular assessments on certain industries. A state that knows how to work the game right can do pretty darned well while still bragging to everybody that it has no "state tax."
It's sort of like a political party that imposes vote-altering election technology while bragging to all the world about its dedication to democracy.
But that's drifting into "conspiracy theory," isn't it?
The Dark Wraith pulls himself back from the edge.
Up here in New England, New Hampshire, famous for its zealously anti-income tax residents, is also known to have rather nasty property tax rates, and also a host of taxes on things that the rest of us in New England just don't bother taxing.
You've got to plow the roads, fix the potholes, pay for the police and fire fighters, and the schools somehow, don't you?
- oddjob
Oh, by the way, this proposal does indeed hit my pocketbook.
Figures.
- oddjob
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